Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism
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The "evangelical feminism" movement is addressed by 22 men and women who have commited their talents to produce the most thorough response yet to the issues raised. All main passages of Scripture that are relevant to the questions are considered.

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  • Super View on Biblical Issues
    Piper and Grudem excel at editing the presentations on the biblical texts related to male and female in the Scripture. It is a solid bit of work, even for those who may not agree with their perspective....more info
  • Wherever You Stand, This Is A Must Read
    If you're going to study the evangelical Christian controversy of the role of women in the home and in the church, then you have to read this book. It is the magnum opus of those who believe that God created men to be (and excluded women from being) the primarily authority in both church and home. This book will give you solid understanding here, even if you disagree (as I do).

    Its most significant negative is length. The authors appear to persuade primarily by the sheer size of the book, because once you read it you'll see much of the argumentation repeated among different authors. What I realized after reading this book are the following 5 points. Their argument for pre-fall male headship is weak; their arguments against God's uses of women in the New Testament are weak; they disregard the equality of spiritual gifts in 1 Cor. 12, Eph. 4, and Rom. 12.; they disregard the anti-discrimination of Gal. 3:28; and they disregard the co-authority and co-equality of Gen. 1:26-27.

    Still, to solidify one's belief in the equality and freedom of roles for all humans and to be able to argue with someone who doesn't, this book is good reading....more info

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    The book arrived in great shape in a very timely fashion. Thanks!...more info
  • A Radically Ambibalent Review
    Writing a review for this book is difficult because it is simultaneously a very good book and a very bad book. But it's not the kind of good and bad that neutralizes each other into a lukewarm puddle, rather it is the kind that coexists constantly asserting its both positive and negative attributes.

    Why this book is good: It is good because it is the most thorough representation of a particular and peculiar viewpoint. I know of no better resource if you're curious about this view or why some people hold it. One hundred years from now when a historian wants to research what a certain self-defined group of thinkers believed in the United States in 1991 on the topics of male headship, this will be the book she reaches for. In this sense it's anthropologic gold! This same historian will no doubt be able to see just how culturally dependant this viewpoint is, even more so than we can now. It is conditioned to a significant degree by the more or less patriarchal structure of certain nations throughout Western history. This manifold strand of history was particularly evident in an unhealthy aspect of Ephesian culture in which women were undervalued and mistreated. As a context for the Biblical text this cultural sickness gained in Ephesus, for some, Biblical authority and was accepted as normative in other cultures which mirrored this disease. As this structure became seriously threatened by the Feminist movement in general and the Evangelical Feminist movement in particular it vigorously defended itself with the goal of self-preservation and disarming a movement which was viewed as both a personal threat and an unbiblical position. It is also, no less, influenced by political ideologies closely wedding itself, with some qualifications in places, to the far Right on the political spectrum. Thus, although it is possible to isolate and evaluate these ideas independently, buying into these ideas is to a large degree buying into a whole web of interrelated ideas that find their foundations in political and cultural structures rather than in the Bible.

    Why this book is bad: For starters it's not exactly bedtime reading. It has a ton of material and the authors honestly must have had to practice very hard to achieve such perfection in boredom. The Bible is the most exciting book ever written in the world and any book that is boring is a sure sign that it does not embody Biblical truths!!! Second, it fails to meet the Evangelical Feminist arguments head on. For all of its thoroughness on its own position, it finds clever and sometimes not so clever ways to circumvent the strongest points that Evangelical Feminists make. In the worst cases it sets up Evangelical Feminism as a straw woman to be dismissed easily in two or three sentences because of what they see to be the self-evident ridiculousness of it all. Simply making claims that Evangelical Feminism is unbiblical is a long way from actually demonstrating that it is unbiblical. Anyone who has read Evangelical feminist literature, even if they disagree with the arguments presented, must admit that the movement seeks to be faithful to the Biblical text and certainly goes much further in demonstrating its Biblical foundation.

    In the end I regret that I am not able to give this book a favorable review on moral grounds because aids in the impoverishment of over half of the human population. Mother Theresa once said that "poverty doesn't only consist of being hungry for bread, but rather it is a tremendous hunger for human dignity." Now she is a woman who demands authority! This book robs women of their God given dignity....more info

  • Convinced
    Reading many of the negative reviews, I couldn't help but think that the reviewers couldn't have read the words written. I did expect that there would have been some contrary views expressed but the antagonistic response of many Christian readers was surprising. I also wondered what kind of reviews would be given by the female elders at our church???
    I found the book quite easy to read. I have found both Grudem and Piper lucid writers and I enjoy the challenge of following their arguments.
    In relation to the central issue of Sexual Complementarity and differing roles within sexually-differentiated equal beings created in the image of God with the same opportunities for salvation, I believe the work is compelling.
    As a Male, I was convicted again of Adam's failure to defend Eve in Genesis 3:1 and not compel the Serpent to direct his questions to him as God had given him the command before Eve was created.
    This same weakness in the male version of Man is still evident in Churches where men defer to women to take on roles that they should take themselves.
    The pastor's heart of Dr Piper is evident in seeking to find a Biblical Answer to the child's question: "Dad, what does it mean to be a man and not a woman?" I am mindful that the need to answer this question is more pressing now in 2006 then it was in 1988 when they published the Danver Statement.
    There is excellent exegesis throughout and I am more comfortable with accepting the full counsel of God in Scripture and seek a rational explanation of seemingly contradictory statements than the argument to set aside the controversial sections referred to in this book....more info
  • Flawed biblical hermeneutics build a sandcastle
    The Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics (1982), which was drawn up under the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy, contains guidelines of principles of interpretation to which most scholars, who hold a high view of Scripture, adhere.

    As evangelicals, I believe Piper and Grudem would agree to these principles. What is unfortunate is that they have not applied a very basic one in their own book, thus undermining the study from the word 'go'. They fail to apply an inductive approach to Bible study where one gathers all evidence on a subject before formulating a thesis.

    Instead, Piper and Grudem state in Chapter One that the essence of masculinity is to lead women and the essence of feminity is to submit to men. The rest of the book consists then of gathering the support of like minded people. The danger of such an approach is that the authors' culture or their personnal preference becomes the starting point rather than the Word of God . The question of this book's approach to Scriptures is thus, by no means, a secondary one!

    The approach widely upheld by evangelical scholars is not a deductive method but an inductive method that searches all of Scriptures. On the issue of women, this inductive approach would cause the student of the Bible to research and analyse EVERY PLACE IN THE BIBLE that speaks of the exercise of authority to see what it says about it, if women are ever permitted to be in authority over a man, and if so, how and when. Piper and Grudem fail to produce this kind of work.

    I do not claim to have unearthed this major flaw myself. Rather, I read this book called "RECOVERING BIBLICAL MINISTRY BY WOMEN, a Response to Traditionalism and Feminism by George and Dora Winston (Xulon Press, available here on AMAZON). They address the question of Piper and Grudem's methodology and offer the fruit of the labor of an inductive approach (560 pages). The result is an harmonious AND comprehensive view of women in all spheres of authority (State, workplace, nature, marriage, family and, of course, Church). Fascinating reading! One would call this book a true biblical theology on the subject.

    By comparison, in my opinion, Piper and Grudem fail to give Scripture a chance. By adopting a deductive approach they simply superimposed on the Bible what they already think the Bible teaches about the place of women in the Church. In doing so they did not keep an open mind but oriented their research to fit the opinion of the establishment they represent. In short, in this book traditionalism and the authors' personal preference lead the way....more info
  • Very good book that refutes the errors of evangelical feminism
    Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood is a much needed response to the 20 and 21st century evangelical church disregarding the clear commands of Scripture. It seems as though a whole cottage industry of Evangelical feminist publications has been established to try to argue against what the Bible so clearly states - that God created both men and women in His own image(so that they both have worth and equal value), BUT He also created them different and with different roles to complement each other and in the home and in the church God established that men should lovingly lead. God's created order is a good order, the feminism of our day has distorted that order, but God's command and order stands true in every generation, men are to lead in the family and men are to lead and teach in the assembled church (woman are not prohibited from teaching children or other woman). This book provides a good vision and defense of, what on the face of it, to most Bible readers is clear and a scholarly refutation of those who deny this order....more info
  • Debunking Evangelical Feminism
    The kind of equality that evangelical femininist teach is NOT BIBLICAL.God`s equality shows us that men and woman are equal but OUR ROLES ARE DIFFERENT.God may not see us as male and female,but he sure expects us to recognize the difference.Many in the church won`t except that but they are not seeking truth.They will actaully criticize those trying to teach the truth.John Piper doesn`t need to resort to longwinding twistings of the scriptures;HE CAN SEE HIS ARGUEMENT LAID OUT,WORD FOR WORD IN THE BIBLE.We need more books like this to combat the sad state of affairs in the Church today....more info
  • Different roles, Equal value
    I haven't finished this book yet, however I'm learning a lot from it.
    In many ways the material confirms my own position on these matters.
    But the clear Scriptural references that are given are very helpful in explaining the basic thoughts.
    I can recommend this book and I hope it will help many people with the aspect of male leadership both in the family as well as in the church.
    I'm very pleased that it makes it very clear that it is not a matter of playing the boss, but instead stresses the special responsibilities the man has towards women in general and his wife and children specifically....more info
    Very thorough,careful exegesis. It really convicted me and changed my mind on a few points. Regardless of your stand on these issues this is THE place to go to explore them more deeply. That is why it was teh book of the year with CT even though the entire editorial staff (except one) disagreed with its conclusions....more info
  • Biblical Truth exudes such commentaries
    John Piper, and friends, are true Godly people seeking to help us understand God's Word. This book does that and the commentary included on this book by others shows the unwillingness to submit to the authority of God's Word and His Son. God's Word, and this book, show a beautiful role of men and women that, if followed, help make for a better world. It does NOT in any way put women down. It DOES have specific roles for each, Godly roles, that have been time-test when followed....more info
  • Important and Damaging Book
    This book is important because it summarizes a virulent theological movement. No one can hope to understand the Southern Baptist Convention's recent statements about women without digging into the theological issues presented in this book.

    This book is widely influential, and I doubt that the Southern Baptists' conservative faction had enough brain power between them to produce the SBC's 1997 statement on the family without the Council for Biblical Man and Womanhood providing the rhetoric needed to support the position.

    Unfortunately, this book's point of view is wrong. The authors spend little time dwelling on how the Fall has affected creation, because they are determined to say that Male Dominance is part of God's plan for creation, not part of a sinful world. To these authors, the real threat to women - most of whom live in a world where they are vastly inferior in social position to men - isn't militant men like the Taliban, but feminists who blur gender distinctions. The authors echo the Fundamentalist misunderstanding that the West was "God's culture" until this century, and that the slide into Liberalism ruined a godly nation. They employ a highly-suspect "historical-critical" interpretation of Genesis 3:16 to subvert the obvious Biblical teaching that man and woman were equal before the Fall and that men now rule as a result of Sin's entrance into our world.

    The truth is that all of human history has been one stain from Sin. The real threat to the vast majority of women isn't gender confusion - it's brutalization from men. God's Word teaches that this was not His plan for Adam and Eve. Too bad that the Southern Baptists - the same folks who fought to justify Slavery against the Biblical arguments of northern Baptist abolitionists - feel the need to resurrect the same arguments in favor of another Sinful institution and cause schism and division in the Church as a result....more info

  • An Honest Opinion
    Men are notoriously insensitive and frequently behave in ways demeaning to women. I know this to be true because I'm describing myself. This is why a femanist will never be convicted with such a book. By means of argument, reason, and so-called "legalism", you can't drive a woman to believe in God-endorsed gender roles when excluding love.

    May the women forgive us; and may God heal the women we've hurt.

    I've not read this work yet, but it sounds like a great work for men of the church to share with one another, so that they may in turn share it with their wives and their daughters. Numbers 30 was written with loving intentions (Mt 22:40)....more info
  • Not Biblical according to original Greek texts, grammar and Bible context.
    Please get yourself a copy of the DVD set - "Women in Ministry, silenced or set free" - by MMoutreach (available at Amazon or MMoutreach).

    For a TRUE and thorough Bible study on this subject, please view "Women in Ministry, silenced or set free" - by MMoutreach.
    Very thorough, and examines this subject from Genesis onwards......

    In these DVD's, many teachings and opinions from the Council of Biblical Manhood and Womanhood are clearly challenged, and absolutely refuted by thorough scriptural studies of the original manuscripts in the greek and the original grammar.

    These are done in absolute context, and are compared with the teachings of the entire Bible - so that the truth of this matter rings out loud and clear to anyone who will seek to know it. ...more info
  • "The Gift of Singleness" and other myths...
    Should a book be rejected simply on basis of its foreword? Absolutely. John Piper's "For Single Men and Women (And the Rest of Us)" reinforces just about every myth associated with the term "The Gift of Singleness" FINALLY being exploded by new Christian writers dealing with the current epidemic of protracted singleness in the church. These myths have gone unquestioned for so long because anyone who challenges them runs the risk of being admonished for discontentment, doubting or even disobeying God's sovereign will. Individuals silently suffer, and the church continues to suffer as these misconceptions endure.

    Despite his best intentions, Piper has contributed to the problem with obsolete works on singleness that endure on many websites (all but one of the references to this foreword are from the 70's and 80's), not to mention his heavyhanded "Don't Waste Your Life/Cancer" message that has inspired spinoffs ("Don't Waste Your Singleness") and edgy imitators, mostly married men who have the luxury of being oblivious to the current predicament of single women in the church facing a severe shortage of potential husbands. See Barna Archives, male/female ratios, and Christianity Today articles by columnist Camerin Courtney, who calls the Christian man shortage "the issue that rises to the top" for Christian singles today). The only gender imbalance Piper bothers to mention is among those in Christian service, from whom he seems to be getting his information on singleness. Failing to discuss the surplus of female singles in the larger church body seems like either a deliberate side-step of the issue or ignorance of the facts. Either way, it's inexcusable for a document of this stature that makes such sweeping declarations about how people should live their lives.

    Sensitivity aside, there are numerous problems with "the gift of singleness", starting with the fact that it's not in the Bible. Ever since the 70's, when the Living Bible and other modern translations began the erroneous use of this phrase in 1 Corinthians 7:7, Christian leaders have assumed that IDIOS CHARISMA meant "own grace gift" from God of either marriage or singleness. But "idios" is more correctly translated as "idiosyncratic", which suggests that Paul was referring to something much more unique than the either/or status of married or single. He accentuates his point about uniqueness using a Greek expression still common today: "hos men houto de hos houto", most closely translated in the NASB as "one in this manner, and another in that." It's a figure of speech! "This" and "that" are non-specific: "this" does not mean marriage and "that" does not mean "singleness". As much as he recognized the advantages of singleness at that time of "present distress" v.26, we have no reason to believe that he saw it as a gift or calling.

    Nor can we assume that Paul was making claim to some special gift of celibacy: whatever was his gift that allowed him to proceed on such a perilous mission alone, he probably didn't quite understand himself. Certainly, there's no biblical evidence to suggest that God ameliorated his sexual desires, (but plenty that suggests he struggled with something of a fleshly nature), nor is there anything in the Bible claiming that "with the gift comes the grace to be chaste", as Piper dangerously suggests. Is he aware that less than one third of single Christians remain virgins until marriage?

    Coinciding with these late 20th century biblical revisions, rogue doctrines on singleness have proliferated throughout the Christian world. The never-married, later disgraced Bill Gothard taught millions who attended his Basic Youth Conflicts seminars that singleness as a gift and a calling, using the terms interchangeably, with the underlying assumption of divine assignment or "rhema". Into the 80's and 90's there may have been some softening attempts that stressed "gift" over "calling", but the two remain inextricably linked. Obviously, this is damage control because there has been damage done. Ellen Varughese in "The Freedom to Marry" wrote at length about Christian singles immobilized in their intent to pursue marriage without any clear "word from the Lord", having been taught to view their default singleness as "God's plan" for their lives, rather than as something that could be caused by individual or generational sin. This is just another symptom of modern Christians becoming too quick to frame events in terms of God's personal plan for an individual's life, leading to excuse making, doubtfulness, magical thinking, and lack of compassion. In order to restore the ordinariness and universality of marriage enjoyed by previous generations of Christians, we must put the emphasis back on God's revealed will about marriage, which puts the onus on human volition (i.e. a man "finds a wife" in Proverbs 18:22, or "takes a wife" in 1 Corinthians 9:5, "some made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven" in Matthew 19; Note: God's instruction for Jeremiah to not marry was particular to time and place).

    From its biblically specious roots to the careerism of Christian singles writers who keep passing it on, "the gift of singleness" does not have an honorable history. It has become a thorn in the side of the a generation of surplus Christian women that dismisses their collective grief and allows leaders to hide behind sermons about sovereignty and contentment instead of addressing the sinful causes of this epidemic, such as the flight of men from our churches (as well as teachings that have sown seeds of doubt, ambivalence, and complacency towards pursuing marriage). But a few of us have caught on to this insidious cycle, most notably Debbie Maken, who has written a book about "rethinking the gift of singleness".

    We do not need to call singleness a gift to effectively encourage spiritual essentials such as gratitude and contentment, or to honor those who have devoted themselves to celibate service (and wouldn't need the flattery of calling it a gift, if indeed their service is sincere). Even if you share Piper's extreme views on sovereignty (he wrote an article after September 11th titled "Why I Do Not Say, 'God Did Not Cause the Calamity, but He Can Use It for Good'"), there are plenty of things that God has given that are not considered gifts. When was the last time you heard the Ten Commandments referred to as a gift?

    Let's all send "the gift of singleness" to the Christian lexicon trashbin, and work together to persuade church leaders to do the same. We can begin by appealing to the editors of The Message and other modern translations to restore translations of 1Corinthians 7:7 so that they once again conform more closely with the original Greek. Most importantly, Christian singles need more than to be told "if you marry, you do not sin". If we care about the future of the church, we should give them a wholehearted blessing to pursue marriage, with no reservations whatsoever about God's will.
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  • Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism
    Very interesting but lots of words-I am not done reading it yet. Well written and John Piper is one of my favorite authors so I know it will be great....more info
  • A most timely resource for Pastors and church leaders.
    As an evangelical Pastor, I was most impressed with the various authors' faithful representation of the Biblical position. Recovering Biblical Manhood & Womanhood is an excellent resource for any Christian who truly desires to adopt a God honoring attitude toward gender roles. Each contributor affirms the universal truth of male leadership in the home, church and community, while at the same time affirming the value of women. One feminist author has referred to this book as a form of right-wing hate literature. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those men who seek to apply what is written here, cannot help but bless the women who know them. Far from being an insult to womankind, Recovering Biblical Manhood & Womanhood is a long overdue (yet loving) response to feminists in the evangelical Christian community. I could hardly regard it with higher esteem. Please read this collection of hermeneutic genious, paying special attention to the essays of the Godly women who made their brave stand for the singular truth of God's Word....more info
  • Disappointed by the decision to reissue without rewriting
    This 2006 reissue of an early 1990s CBMW book advocates a He Leads/She Submits model of Christian marriage. I am disappointed by the decision to reissue the book without responding to Dr. Sarah Sumner's 2003 critique of this model in her book, Men and Women in the Church. Sumner points out that a wife's submission should be understood in the context of her husband's sacrifice, not his leadership. Additionally, it is not appropriate to reduce headship to leadership. Headship is a metaphor. While leadership is an important aspect of headship, leadership does not capture other facets of the metaphor and misses the organic unity implied by the head/body pairing. He leads/She submits alters the head/body and sacrifice/submit pairings in Ephesians 5, so is a distortion of the Biblical marriage model and an inaccurate summary of the essence of Christian marriage.

    Another way of making this point is the following argument: I don't submit to Christ because He is the best leader the world has ever seen. He is, but that isn't why I submit to Him. I submit to Christ because He died on the Cross for me. In a Christian marriage, the relationship between husband and wife is to parallel the relationship between Christ and the Church. The essence of that relationship is his sacrifice/her submission, NOT his leadership/her submission.

    Sumner's arguments ring true to me, based both on my reading of the Biblical texts and my childhood experiences in a fundamentalist Baptist church. I am disappointed that CBMW has chosen to ignore Sumner's work, as opposed to either responding to her critique or modifying their model. ...more info
  • No Equality Here
    The authors claim this book is a response to the movement of feminism, but I think it's a response to any woman who dares seek equality with a man or a place of leadership. This is the second time I've seen a male writer try to place women beneath men while at the same time claiming to believe in equality. Honestly, who do they think they're fooling? The statement that "men and women are created equally, but God made man the head and woman the helper" is one of the most self-contradicting statements I've ever seen.

    However well-meaning these authors may be (I'm really not sure what their agenda is), I can't imagine what they see to be healthy or beneficial about encouraging women to never attempt to be in the position that they are. Christ is higher than all of us, but He pulled people up beside Him instead of shoving them down. He also elevated women as well as men, and yet these authors are trying to say that women were created only to be "helpers" just because we have wombs? How does that make us inferior leaders to men? If you want proof to overthrow these authors' claims, simply read the Bible! In the Bible, it was women who Christ first revealed Himself to after His resurrection and women who He entrusted with the news of His resurrection. The Apostle Paul even asked women to pray and prophesy in his church. Did I mention Deborah, who taught many men? The Bible hardly has silent women, does it?

    With this knowledge, no one can accurately claim that God meant for men to be teachers and women to be silent; that idea is simply, blatantly untrue. You can NOT tell a woman she was made to submit and can never lead just because she's a woman and then attempt to label yourself a Christian. We are all servants to Christ; this is not a matter of sex. God designed men and women to co-exist and rule Eden in equality; it was not until after the Fall that man, not God, designed a flawed heirarchy of men over women.

    Of course, we can't forget the women writers in this book whom Piper and Grudem graciously allowed to share their experiences in order to back up the complimentarian viewpoint. One woman's story in particular made it clear how cut and dry these people think women's roles are. This woman shared a story about a time she spent with some tribal people. She explained that it was understood among everyone there that women cooked, made bungalows, toiled, etc, and no one had a problem with this. The clincher for me, though, was when she said that, when she lifted a spear at one point and pretended to be about to throw it, the men of the tribe nearly died laughing. "Women have nothing to do with spears," she explained. "These responsibilities (men's and women's) were not up for grabs, not interchangeable, not equal." She admits that the roles of these men and women are not equal and seems to praise the fact that no one questions them! And this is the role model we, as Christians, should take? That of pagan natives, who believe that women don't question anything and who find the very idea of women fighting to be laughable?? No thanks, I prefer God's design: that of fighting women, who do know how to defend themselves and to question those who attempt to define their roles and nature to them.

    A wise friend of mine on another site was speaking of the ridiculous hyper-patriarchal design and how it always attempts to influence men to be dominant and women to be passive and reactive rather than proactive. Here are her words:

    "The "men don't submit" principle inherent in patriarchy is based, once again, on an immature obsession with sex differences and, perhaps, an insecurity with one's own sexual adequacy. (MY hypothesis.)

    Men and women are different. (What a "duh" level concept!) So far, so good.

    But in patriarchy, men being different from women must be absolute. That's why they invent long, complicated, legalistic lists of what men are like and what women are like, and why they're polar opposite lists.

    So if it's a virtue for women to be submissive, then it's anathema for men to be submissive.

    That's why virtually all the fruit of the Spirit wind up on the "pink" lists and why you have boorish, arrogant traits being commended for the boys. I suspect it's also why they're making such a business of accusations of "feminizing men/boys" in church, schools, society in general, etc. When reasonable people expect both boys and girls, men and women, to be courteous, humble, respectful, loving, kind, and other "feminine" things that are actually signs of civilized human beings, these wingnuts think that it's an outrageous demand, that we're "stifling" our boys and "emasculating" our men."

    Please don't be misled by this book; it attempts to do something much more than provide relief from the Feminist movement. Imbalance of power in either sex is bad; radical feminism is one end of the spectrum and books like this are the other. Either way, equality and harmony are lost. The only way this book could possibly be useful in a healthy way to any person would be if it were used as either a reference to old-fashioned thinking or a guide on how NOT to treat and regard women. As a Godly woman, I have every intention of being a servant to Christ and no intention of doing so beneath men....more info
  • Painful reading
    I read this book only because I believe in gender equality and teach on the subject. I felt it was necessary to be fully aware of the traditionalist position on women. After reading this book I do feel more equipped to teach. And I am now more determined to aid in releasing women from the bondage of male-headship(as defined in this book.) In my experience I have found that the traditionalist/complementarian views on women have done nothing but cause pain and feelings of inferiority for women.

    In my opinion, the authors have a poor scriptural foundation for their position. I am horrified that they would be willing to subordinate Christ eternally in order to justify the subordination of women. I encourage anyone who is studying the issue to read many books on the topic before making a quick decision.

    We are all called to be like Christ. Christ not only treated women with dignity but he discipled them and sent them to preach the Gospel. The best thing to do his follow the example He set.

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