|HP Pavilion A6700F Desktop PC (1.8 GHz AMD Phenom X4 9150e Quad-Core Processor, 4 GB RAM, 500 GB Hard Drive, DVD Drive, Vista Premium)
|List Price: $731.00
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Whether you're surfing the Web, touching up photos, or mixing a soundtrack for your home videos, HP Pavilion desktop PCs offer a variety of ways to make your computing experience richer and more rewarding. Every Pavilion PC includes many intuitive features that make capturing and sharing your digital experiences easier than ever. Starting with using AMD Phenom processors that enable true multi-core solutions for a new dimension in performance that deliver an exquisitely powerful, intensely visual and strikingly efficient computing experience. Another feature is by adding to the front panel a 15-in-1 memory card reader, making it easy to transfer photos and files to and from your digital camera and other peripheral devices. NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE with 128MB Dedicated with up to 1343MB Shared Graphics Memory SuperMulti DVD+-R/RW with Double Layer High Definition Audio, 8 speaker configurable 802.11b/g Wireless LAN 10/100 Base T Ethernet LAN 15-in-1 card reader Front ports - 2 x USB, IEEE 1394, Headphone, Microphone Back ports - 4 x USB, IEEE 1394, 2 x PS2 ports (keyboard, mouse), Microphone/Line-in/Line-out, Rear speaker-out, Side speaker out, Center (subwoofer), RJ-45 (LAN), VGA Expansion slots - PCI (available), 2 x PCI Express x1 (one available), PCI Express x16 (available) Drive bays - 2 x external 5.25 (one available), 1 x external 3.5 (available), 2 x internal 3.5 (one available) Monitor is not included
Boasting a sleek and shiny black-and-silver chassis, the HP Pavilion a6700f desktop PC comes loaded with the all tools you need to easily create, manage, share, and enjoy your digital photos, home videos, movies, and music. You can easily burn your home video productions to DVD for friends and family with the dual-layer, multi-format DVD/CD burner, which enables you to store up to 8.5 GB of data on a DL disc and provides a super-fast 16x DVDí└RW write speed.
This desktop is powered by the AMD's 1.8 GHz Phenom X4 9150e quad-core processor, which increases the efficiency and speed of the PC as well as improves multimedia and gaming performance. Store more music, videos, and data on the super-sized 500 GB hard drive capacity. Other features include 4 GB of RAM (which can be bumped up to 8 GB), Nvidia GeForce 6150 SE graphics (with up to 1343 MB of total graphics memory), 54g Wi-Fi networking, Gigabit Ethernet wired networking, a wide variety of connection ports on both the front and rear of the box, and a 15-in-1 memory card reader that's compatible with today's most popular digital camera formats.
The sleekly black HP Pavilion a6700f (monitor not included).
It comes preinstalled with the 64-bit version of Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Service Pack 1), which includes all of the Windows Media Center capabilities for turning your PC into an all-in-one home entertainment center. In addition to easily playing your DVD movies and managing your digital audio library, you'll be able to record and watch your favorite TV shows (even HDTV). Vista also integrates new search tools throughout the operating system, includes new parental control features, and offers new tools that can warn you of impending hardware failures.
| Spec Check |
- 1.8 GHz AMD Phenom X4 9150e quad-core processor
- 500 GB hard drive
- 4 GB RAM (8 GB maximum)
- Dual-layer DVDí└R drive
- Nvidia GeForce 6150 SE graphics (up to 1343 MB total)
- Windows Vista Home Premium (64-bit, SP1)
Video & Audio
- Processor: This desktop is powered by AMD's 1.8 GHz Phenom X4 9150e quad-core processor was designed for megatasking--running multiple, multi-threaded applications such as processor-intensive visual design and modeling and serious 3D games as well all your digital multimedia. With an integrated memory controller and shared L3 cache, AMD Phenom X4 9000 Series processors have low-latency access to main memory for amazingly rapid system response and phenomenal system performance. The 9150e has 2 MB of L2 cache in addition to 2 MB of L3 cache and a 2000MT/s system bus.
All AMD Phenom X4 9000 series processors feature AMD64 with Direct Connect Architecture to blast through performance bottlenecks and provide direct access to DDR2 memory. AMD's HyperTransport 3.0 technology now provides support for full 1080p high-definition video. And with the next generation Cool'n'Quiet 2.0 technology reducing heat and noise, the AMD Phenom X4 9000 Series quad-core processor delivers seamless multitasking and optimum energy efficiency.
- Hard Drive: The large 500 GB Serial ATA (SATA) hard drive (7200 RPM) offers a wealth of storage space, perfect for storing a vast multimedia collection or for editing digital video. This SATA hard drive has a 3Gb/s interface speed that enables up to 300MB/s data transfer rates (double the speed of the current SATA interface of 1.5Gb/s).
- Memory: The 4 GB of installed RAM (PC6400) helps boost the amount of available video RAM that's shared with this notebook's video card. It also offers a fast 800 MHz speed. This desktop has an 8 GB maximum RAM capacity (4 x 2 GB) when used with a 64-bit operating system (4 GB when used with a 32-bit OS). To receive the faster data transfer benefits of the dual-channel DDR2 RAM, any RAM additions require memory modules of same capacity and clockspeed.
- DVD/CD Drive: This multiformat DVD/CD drive is compatible with writing both DVD+ and DVD- disc formats as well as dual-layer (DL) DVD+/-R discs, which can store up to 8.5 GB of data. It features 12x DVDí└R DL Write Once, 16x DVDí└R, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 12x DVD-RAM, 40x CD-R, 32x CD-RW write speeds and 40x CD-ROM, and 16x DVD-ROM read speeds.
- Keyboard & Mouse: It comes with an HP multimedia keyboard and scroller mouse (both with PS/2 connections).
This desktop features an integrated Nvidia GeForce 6150 SE graphics/video card with 128 MB of dedicated graphics memory. Windows Vista can also allocate up to 1343 MB of total graphics memory from the system memory. It features NVidia's PureVideo technology--which provides great picture clarity, smooth video, accurate color, and precise image scaling for video content--and full support for Microsoft DirectX 9.0 for stunningly realistic cinematic effects for all DirectX-compatible applications. It also offers an integrated audio card that can produce high definition surround sound configurable to 8 speakers.
Networking, Connectivity & Expansion
This desktop has an integrated 54g wireless LAN that's fully compatible with 802.11b/g wireless networks. For expansion, it has one PCI slot (occupied), two PCI Express x1 slot (one available), one PCI Express x16 slot (available), two 5.25-inch bays (one available), and three 3.5-inch bays (two available). It comes with the following external connectors:
- 6 USB 2.0 ports for connecting a wide range of peripherals--from digital cameras to MP3 players (2 in front, 4 in rear)
- 2 FireWire (also known as IEEE 1394 or i.Link) port for connecting digital video camcorders and other peripherals (1 in front, 1 in rear)
- 2 PS/2 ports for connecting keyboards and mice
- Video output: 1 VGA
- 2 headphone and 2 microphone (front and rear)
- Digital coaxial audio input/output as well as surround sound speaker outputs (rear/side/center)
- 15-in-1 multi-format memory card reader, compatible with CompactFlash I/II, IBM Microdrive, Secure Digital (SD), miniSD, MultiMediaCard (MMC), Reduced Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), MultiMediaCard Plus (MMC plus), MultiMediaCard Mobile (MMC mobile), Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick Pro Duo, SmartMedia, and xD Picture Card.
- 10/100 Fast Ethernet
- 56K modem
The 64-bit version of Windows Vista Home Premium (with SP1) is the operating system for users with advanced computer needs, and it includes all of the Windows Media Center capabilities for turning your PC into an all-in-one home entertainment center for watching DVD movies and accessing your digital audio library. You can also use Windows Media Center to record and watch your favorite TV shows (even HDTV) and to access new kinds of online entertainment content. Computers that include Windows Vista Home Premium and an auxiliary Windows SideShow display will also allow you to access key data even when your computer is off. It is also easier than ever to share files between other PCs in your household and to manage your laptop computer settings to more securely connect via Wi-Fi.
Every edition of Windows Vista provides the essential tools and technologies to help protect you whether you are browsing the Internet, connecting to a wireless network, or just reading e-mail. All editions of Windows Vista include new tools that can warn you of impending hardware failures long before you have lost any important personal data. And, all Windows Vista editions include parental control features that allow you to manage and monitor your family's use of games, the Internet, instant messaging, and other activities.
- HP MediaSmart Software Suite: Your one-stop multimedia and entertainment center to create photo slideshows, share personal videos, listen to your favorite music playlists and watch DVD movies.
- muvee autoProducer Basic: Automatically create professional looking home videos and burn to DVD.
- Cyberlink DVD Suite Deluxe: Automatically fix and edit videos and create CDs and DVDs. Edit, burn and archive data to discs.
- Microsoft Works 9: Includes a word processor, spreadsheet, database and calendar.
- Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition 2007 (60-day trial version).
- Adobe Reader 8: Read and print PDF files.
- Norton Internet Security 2009 protects your PC and your identity when you email, bank and shop online; 60 days of protection updates included.
Dimensions & Weight
It measures 16.3 x 6.9 x 15.25 inches (LxWxD) and weighs approximately 22 pounds.
What's in the Box
The HP Pavilion a6700f desktop PC comes with a power cord, keyboard, and scroller mouse. It is backed by a one-year warranty for parts and labor from date of purchase, one-year technical phone service, and 90 days of software application support.
Note: Monitor not included.
- Sleek, shiny and powerful black-and-silver desktop with 1.8 GHz AMD Phenom X4 9150e quad-core
- 500 GB hard drive, 4 GB installed RAM (8 GB max), 16x multi-format/dual-layer DVD drive
- 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g); 10/100 Ethernet; Nvidia GeForce 6150 SE graphics (up to 1343 MB total)
- Connections: 6 USB, 2 FireWire, 1 VGA, 1 headphone/line-out, 1 microphone, 15-in-1 memory card reader
- Pre-installed with Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1 (64-bit version); includes keyboard and mouse
- Good for video editing
I bought this computer because my other computer was ancient and I couldn't edit a movie without crashing.
My computer did not work when I first plugged it in. It was not compatible with my monitor. I couldn't figure it out until I connected the computer to another monitor. Apparently, that monitor has issues, because it didn't work with some of my other computers, either.
There was enough space for me to add my old SATA hard drive to run as a slave. There's also an extra bay to add another CD/DVD drive. I had to buy a SATA power Y cable, because all the SATA power cables in the case were being used.
The case opens pretty easily and the drives are easy to install.
This computer reads 15 different cards. I don't have that many to test. It works well with my SDHC cards. My MMC Pro worked, but it did not seat well in the slot. I had to jiggle it a little to get it to read.
In addition to the card readers, the front of the case also has one FireWire port and two USB ports, one headphone jack and one speaker jack, which make for easier access.
I wish the USB ports were horizontal rather than vertical. I would like to have more than two USB ports in the front and I would like at least one of the USB ports to be a distance away from the other two. The ones on this computer are so close together that they make it difficult for me to insert my EVDO USB modem when something else is connected to the other USB port.
It was easy to get up and running and my screen wasn't cluttered with a bunch of useless trial offers. It took me a bit of getting used to, but it is pretty easy to navigate. My only problem is compatibility issues. My Palm software cannot be installed and used on Vista. Therefore, I am unable to sync my Palm.
Internet Explorer 8 came installed on this computer, but I cannot use my American Greetings subscription to print out greeting cards, because the tech support there said it is not compatible with IE8. I would need to uninstall IE8 and install IE7 to use their site.
Thus the reason I bought this computer. Can it handle video editing? The answer is yes! And I can multitask while I'm at it. Whereas my last computer took hours to create video only a few minutes long and often crashed in the process, this one took minutes. Burning was quick.
This was a nice purchase for me. It's a fast computer, I notice it even when downloading and installing programs. I especially notice it when editing my videos. There are some minor compatibility issues but Vista is not difficult to use and I am a happy camper. ...more info
Very useful, I hope it lasts longer than the one I had before. It was not an HP....more info
- fast w/low power consumption
I purchased one of these a couple of months ago and have been very happy with it. I however wish it had come with Linux pre-installed because I installed Debian Linux and did away with Windows Vista, which unfortunately was included in the price. The machine is speedy and performs well at everything I've asked it to do. The computer is certified as a low power computer. A kill-a-watt meter indicates that it idles at about 43 watts, which is a huge savings over a machine I used to own that consumed over 100 watts. So the average user should be able to save on their electricity bill using this desktop....more info
- Great Product, Great Price
this is the best option cheap, fast i just receive the pc conect all and thats all. i recomend this to every one who wants power for a low price...more info
- SLOWER THAN SLOW
SORRY I DIDN'T READ ALL OF THE REVIEWS FIRST...THIS MACHINE IS SLOWER THAN MY OLD ONE AND I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED. DON'T EVEN TRY CUSTOMER SERVICE..THERE IS NONE EXCEPT THOSE IN INDIA READING FROM THE POLITE MENU, BUT ARE NO HELP AT ALL. AND I CANNOT USE THIS AT ALL WITH A FAIRLY NEW HP PHOTOSMART PRINTER? AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, HP OWES ME A NEW PRINTER...I SAW NO DISCLAIMER ANYPLACE TELLING ME ABOUT THIS.. NO WAY WOULD I BUY AN HP PRODUCT AGAIN. IDID READ ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING IT UP BY DELETING SOME ITEMS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHICH ONES.....I DO NOT SEE MUCH RUNNING AT STARTUP..........more info
- Beyond Painfully Slow
The HP Pavillion appears to have all the current bells and whistles that a consumer would be looking for in a fast and long lasting computer. I would give this product 0 stars if it would let me. This product takes longer than my 10 year old computer to turn on. Additionally, every time there is a new tab the computer seems to get lost in an endless loop before it will allow you to enter any data. There aren't enough words in the Webster dictionary to describe the extent of frustration and the amount of wasted time with this machine. I sent mine back. I purchased a computer from a different companyHP Pavilion A6750F Desktop PC (2.3 GHz AMD Phenom X4 9650 Quad-Core Processor, 8 GB RAM, 750 GB Hard Drive, DVD Drive, Vista Premium)....more info
- Too noisy
This PC works okay but rather slow. My old HP desk top PC (with AMD dual process) was much quieter than this machine. You can really hear the noise from the power supply's fan during the night time. I don't know if HP has switched to use cheaper power supply for this line of the PCs. Does anyone else noticed the noise or it is just this particular machine. ...more info
- Great value for money
This is not the latest and greatest machine you can buy on todays market, but it is wonderful value for money.
More than enough power for a small office, home, or homeschool work.
And when running dual boot with linux this box really screams.
With linux systems, this amount of memory makes it a home office dream....more info
- I am so happy!
I love the power and speed of this computer! It plays all my current applications and one's that I had from before! I gave up a newer Acer because of problems with my favorite applications. No problems at all with this one.
I have had many brands of computers and seem to have the best luck with HP's. The hardware works well together and I have not had any glitches like I do with the Acer or Toshiba computers I own.
Would I recommend it? Yes. I actually bought another after using the one I got my son for his gaming. He rocks now on CounterStrike!...more info
- Works as advertised
This computer arrived almost ready to go. It works at lighting speed compared to my 7 year old HP. It handles many big programs open at once. First used for video editing and it meets all my expectations. The only con is windows vista. I am xp fan. Computer uses 64bit version of vista. I have found very few programs that will not work on the 64bit version....more info
- Very happy with this comupter
I bought this here on Amazon two weeks ago. I'm happy as heck with it so far. I like Vista once I started using it, and so far I have done everything in the digital realm, so drivers haven't been an issue. Vista recognized my Creative mp3 player and my BlackBerry as soon as I plugged them in. I've heard that Vista was better if you run it on a computer that can handle it, meaning multiprocessors and 4 GB or more RAM, and I have found this to be the case. Very happy with both the hardware and the software, especially considering the price....more info
- Very nice computer
This is a very nice computer, especially for the price. Like stated in an earlier review, the sound card is sort of crappy. Overall it's nt bad and I would definitely recommend buying this product. ...more info
- An excellent buy especially at this price
In my opinion this machine has many positives and very few negatives. Positives: The price is inexpensive, the machine is quiet, Its not a phenom II but it is a phenom. Very nice quad core product. It has 8 GB of memory more than enough to handle any vista. (I'm testing windows 7 and I won't need it on this machine.) Even the keyboard is better than most budget (not software loaded- you can buy it yourself cheaper anyway machines). I combed through amazon for something under a 1000 and I'm happy to say this tops the rest. Actually I can't think of a hardware feature making the price over 1000 worth it. Maybe a faster processor although AMD doesn't make a whole lot of them.
The performance rating on this machine for vista. Processor 5.9, memory 5.9, hard disk 5.9 (has 3/4 of a terrabyte)graphics for aero 4.3 gaming graphics 4.0.
Total base score 4.0
* based on a maximum base score of 5.0 at vistas release.
A couple of quick negatives: Ahh, Not an intel processor quad, have to buy your own monitor, there are video cards out there that will give vista a higher score. Be ready for a bombardment of trial offers....more info
- Microsoft OS tax and HP crapware ruin this
As others have pointed out, with modern hardware, it's all about the drivers. Microsoft pays companies to limit their proprietary driver development to OEMs with which they have volume licensing contracts to sell Windows. Without such dirty tricks, Microsoft can no longer compete against Linux and OSX. The problem is that Windows scales horribly and cannot take advantage of the new quad- and 8-core processors like Linux can. That means that no matter how much hardware you throw at a Microsoft operating system, Microsoft will erode its potential like acid thrown on a new car.
This is not a Linux rant, but it's a real pain to buy any machine and be forced to pay for an OS I don't use. I reformatted it with Fedora Linux and it runs every part of it. openSUSE Linux also recognized the hardware. With its speed regained, the machine seems like a bargain except for the incredibly chinchy computer case. Oh well, can't have it all. I knew there was a reason I always built my own; it wasn't just to save money....more info
- Good Deal.
This was a good purchase. It's fast and runs smoothly. It could, however, do without all the HP applications that come pre-installed (I uninstalled them).
The only reason I gave it a 4 is because the DVI port won't put out a signal. I tried everything: look for bent pins on the DVI-D cable (the cable was brand new...this package does not include the cable), made sure all my video card drivers are updated, try a different monitor. Nothing seems to remedy the problem.
I'm currently emailing nVidia and HP to see if they can help. We'll see how that pans out.
Other than that, it's a good buy....more info
- i would call it the lemon..
This is the second a6750f..the first lasted less than a month and the hard drive crashed..and this one i have already had to do a system restore..Dont waste ur time or money on this one!I'm being generous by giving it two stars....more info
- Can you say Buyer Beware
Not a good computer at all. Seems that all of the card drivers are malfunctioned and so it takes forever to download pictures to the computer from your cards. I went to the place I bought the computer and the guy there used his own card to see how long it would take on the two exact models he had up there and the same thing happened so he stated that it must be an issue with this model. Of course the people at HP do not speak English and give me no answers to solve the issue and it has been 45 days since I bought the computer. Do not buy this model. Buyer beware. I am a photographer so my life depends on the card slots to download fast. Took 6 hours for 170 Low Res. Photos to download....more info
- Mostly Good ...
I bought this computer to use as a DAW, to produce and record my music on. This is not a good computer for that purpose. Running DPC latency check, spikes were consistently high, almost always in the red. This means that there are several conflicts with devices, and/or processes that will cause 'clicks, pops, and audio dropouts.' This is probaby, mostly due to Vista, so I would not knock the computer. It's great for most purposes. But I wouldn't recommend it as a DAW, due to latency issues.
It's fast, everything loads up quickly. I delete all the HP nonsense that comes with it, and it makes it even faster. I just wish it was more compatible with Audio hardware.
I want to try and run XP on this, but I think it is impossible. I can't even find the chipset driver for XP....more info
- Cheap and very powerful
We bought this in package form along with an HP monitor and printer to replace our aging desktop. It completely screams when asked to do anything multimedia related, and cruises on native MS programs like Office 2007 as well. If you really want to get some performance out of it, install OpenOffice and Firefox, as both seem to take advantage of the hardware and outperform their MS brethren by wide margins. I can't help but think what Linux would do on such a machine.
The only problem we had, and it WAS frustrating, was that a technician bent a pin in the wireless card during install. It was nothing that anyone would have noticed visually, and the system initially performed well, but after a day, the bad connection was too much and the wireless card only worked intermittently. After an all night session talking with HP Service in India, I located the problem. A new wireless card, free of charge and with straight pins, fixed the situation. I can't hold it against HP. The card initially worked on start-up, so it probably passed the bench tests. These things happen, even at Apple and Dell. HP's customer service was patient and effective, and the new part arrived in 2 days.
Overall, incredible machine. By our "Performance Gadget," we haven't even begun to max the processor or RAM out, even with the latest versions of Pinnacle Studio, OpenOffice, and MusicMaker.
- Supplement to prior submitted review, Will not install MS Vista Ultimate 64 Bit
Following up on my prior review (which has not yet been approved/posted) I attempted to install Vista Ultimate 64 Bit on the machine and it would not take; i.e. the installation said this computer would not take the install and it kept Vista Home Premium 64 Bit installed.
Other than that, and I expect MS to fix the issue, my prior review stands. Great value and performance. ...more info
- Big bang for the bucks!
Purchased mine at Office Max as they had it on sale without the hassle of submitting the rebate form as at Depot. The performance rating (found under control panel) shows exceptional ratings except for video, which is understandable given that the video is integrated. I plan on upgrading video with a dedicated PCI-E card which should make the computer fly in all tasks. Be aware that Vista 64 does not support older hardware and software. Even ones that run fine under XP may not run under this OS. The processor is an AMD quad which is a cheaper alternative to similar Intel but it does a fine job and is fast. Also note that the wireless is up to G only (no draft N) but with the included antenna, the reception is good and internet browsing is fast enough. For under $510, there aren't too many systems out there that offers similar performance. Only reason why I'm not giving it a 5 is the integrated video and G wireless....more info
- Adequate for the price
Been in the market for a new PC for a while and wound up purchasing this one yesterday, locally from Office Depot (sixty dollar rebate enticed me over the edge ;) )
Initial impressions were that it seemed slower that I expected a quad core processor to run but it is still plenty fast (downloads and loading software from CD where not much faster at all than my old Pentium 4 1.2G)
Where the quad core really shines is when running multiple apps (antivirus scan while surfing, etc.)
The wireless card requires an external antenna (included, but weird) which is invaluable if you happen to be located any appreciable distance away from your wireless router. I have mine on the other side of the house and still register 100% signal.
I really have only a couple of gripes, with just one of them major. 1, the HP suite is an enormous, cumbersome waste of space that does absolutely nothing. Hard to believe that when I ran antivirus on a brand new machine and the Task Manager showed 61 processes ( Yea Vista :( ) running and over 700,000 files already on the hard drive. Which leads me to 2. Windows Vista 64.
If you are looking for a single reason to run for the hills away from this computer - this is it. First and foremost, you can toss anything at all you expect to use peripheraly right out the window. I guarantee if it's over a year old, there are no drivers for it.
Found this out the hard way after spending most of the evening trying to locate drivers for my printer only to find out that the manufacturer no long supports the model and does not and will not write drivers for it. So my 3 year old perfectly good laser printer is now a boat anchor.
Additionally, I planned to do sound editing (actually one of the reasons for the purchase) and guess what? No Vista 64 drivers for the Alesis Multimix. and so on.
Thinking about wiping Vista off and replacing with a copy of XP service pack 2? Forget it - unless you're gonna replace the motherboard and buy new sound, video, PCI cards...HP doesn't support XP drivers for the sound and video cards. Talk about a catch 22.
The sound and video are integrated on the motherboard and the sound card is a Realtek which seems more than adequate. Scaleable to HD, 5.1 and 7.1, I'm pleasantly impressed. The video card is average at best and definitely the weakest piece of the package. Gamers will not be impressed.
Overall, it is fine for the money, but be aware of what you are getting. If this is a first purchase, I'm sure the OS will become more and more prevelant and any gear you purchase to go along with it should be Vista 64 compliant. If it's a replacement, get ready to buy all new stuff.
- Bad Hardware
Bought one at Office Depot, they had a [...] buck mail in rebate so it would have been [...]. The wireless card uses a mini coax connector to an antenna and that connector would not hookup, no matter how I tried it would not connect. I called HP support and after 30 minutes on hold, I gave up and returned it. Too bad, the store demo computer seemed nice. I could've bought a new wireless card with built in antenna but that just isn't right, HP should have a wireless card with an antenna that can be hooked up. ...more info