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- to avoid imperatively
I don't share the same enthusiasm as other reviewers...
This is an absolutly boring movie and be warned nearly 60% of the movie is shooting in night time.So you are in the black .A lot of fun garanteed...!!!!
Zero action and zero everything.
The HD DVD transfer is surely not what you expect from High definition....more info
- One of the best westerns ever made
In the interest of brevity, I will say only: UNFORGIVEN is one of the best western films ever made and certainly the best film Clint Eastwood has ever made; everybody in it is good -- except Gene Hackman, who is great; don't miss it....more info
- The Best Western Since The Wild Bunch
A great movie does not follow a formula but crafts a story that tells you something. Eastwood has done something magnificent here and in the process he's explained what's going on in many inferior Westerns. There are violent people in the world that handle situations differently than most, but this film is more about clarity of conviction than violence... if you are going to do something, you might as well commit yourself to it.
Unforgiven is a great movie and a compelling story. Peckinpah was one of the first to successfully film violent men. Cormac McCarthy and Hemingway successfully wrote about them. Pick up McCarthy's "No Country For Old Men" to see his take. ...more info
- Review from a first-time viewer...
Before I begin, I would like to give a disclaimer. Although I liked this film, I have only viewed it once and I am also I young man who has not seen many westerns. Therefore, it has not yet grown on me (as many previous reviewers have stated that it does) and also I have very little to compare this film to. With that said, on to the review...
My first impression of this film was that it was very well done. The plot of the film is thick and dark and has many parts, the main segment being the story of Will Munny (Clint Eastwood) and his companion Ned Logan (Morgan Freeman). Munny is a retired assassin in from Kansas who has decided to live a life of rationality in tribute to his wife, raising two children and working (and failing) as a pig farmer. One day Munny is confronted by a young assassin-in-training known only as "The Schofield Kid" about going to Wyoming to kill two cowboys who slashed a prostitute (there is a $1,000 reward put up by the prostitutes). The film, in an extremely summarized version of the extremely dense storyline, is the story of Will Munny struggling to come to grips with his haunted past.
Although I enjoyed the suspense of the film very much, there were two aspects of the film that I didnt particularly enjoy. The first was the constant use of shadowed lighting which spread shadows across the face of nearly every character in the movie and which made the film extraordinarily difficult to concentrate on. While I understand this technique is used in emphasis of the darkness of the film, I still don't think it added anything to the emotions running within the movie. The second was the use of Richard Harris' character, "English Bob". I didn't understand how his portion of the storyline was relevant to the rest of the movie other than to allow for an excellent soliloquoy by Gene Hackman inside the town jail. There were many more portions of the film that I did appreciate very much, especially the youthful enthusiasm of the Schofield Kid, who beautifully contrasts Will's bleak denial of his true identity with yearning for adventure.
I will probably watch this film again at some point, but even after one view, I strongly reccommend it for its dark and brutal storyline and excellent acting performances. Watch it several times if you get the chance, and let the film mystique grow on you....more info
- 18 people gave this one star - bet they eat junk food
This film is rather slow in its build up, but like a great meal which has had hours lavished over it, from firstly buying all the ingredients then spending hours over the stove mixing and cooking. You finally sit down to eat 'mmm mmm, that tastes so darn good' quarter of an hour later you've finished your meal and you feel content. Unforgiven works in a similar way, the film spends large amounts of time bringing the story together, then the climax is short, but it gets me every time, it is so exciting. The film sets to dispel the old myths of the west - regarding cold hearted killers, and the only real cold hearted son of a gun isn't that cold hearted afterall....more info
- Great Western and Eastwood's Best.
"Unforgiven" has to be rated as the top Western's of the 20th Century. It is well made and has great actors. Hackman's role in "Unforgiven" is so well played he deserved all the awards of that year. Eastwood and Freeman are well suited to make more movies in the near future. All in all "Unforgiven" has to be in your collection of movies even though you may not like Western's. Highly recommended, Buy-It Now!!! Ed...more info
- There is nothing to forgive; everything is pitch-perfect...
It's really no wonder it's taken me this long to finally see `Unforgiven'. I've stated before that westerns were never really my thing, and it's not like Eastwood has a huge draw on me either. He's serviceable at best in my opinion, only on rare occasions having his overly gruff mannerisms pay off with brilliance. After the amazing year westerns in general had last year (`3:10 to Yuma', `No Country for Old Men' and `...Jesse James...' all making my top ten of the year) I figured that maybe I should research this Oscar winning classic to see if the films iconic status was justified.
Watching `Unforgiven' has really made me realize that you should never judge a film before you see it, because you never truly know what's in store for you.
`Unforgiven' opens with a sharp pain of brutality as two men victimize a woman. When the sheriff doesn't do anything more than slap the men's wrists the women of the community put out a reward for the men's head. William Munny, a former murderer turned caring father and widower, hears of the reward and, hesitantly, decides to pursue it in order to better take care of his two children. Along with his former sidekick Ned Logan and an overly confident young gunslinger going by the name of The Schofield Kid, Munny makes his way into town with his horse and his gun and the smell of blood.
Eastwood really went all out with this production. The overall feel of the film is very gritty and dark and adds weight to the moral that is brought to the full as the curtains close so-to-speak. The film is violent, but in a repressed sort of way, allowing the majority of the film to ride on the anticipation of bloodshed and only truly rearing its head in short explosions of brutality. This allows `Unforgiven' to become more than just an action film or a bloodbath but creates a film that is as deep and poignant as it is entertaining.
The acting is also golden here. Morgan Freeman seems to just coast through his scenes, but his companionship with Eastwood is unmatchable. He just has such a natural talent that even when he isn't doing anything exceptional he is still amazing. Clint has never really sold it for me. I was impressed with him in `Million Dollar Baby' because I felt as though he made his harshness work to his advantage. He does that here as well. Next to `Million Dollar Baby' this has got to be his finest performance. Gene Hackman steals the whole show though as Bill Daggett, the ruthless sheriff. His savagery is embellished by his sick sense of justification and that makes Hackman's character development nothing short of extraordinary.
In the end I'm pleased to say that `Unforgiven' stands up as worthy of the praise and attention it has received. I can't say if it was the best film of the year (92 was such a fantastic year for film) but it most definitely ranks in my top ten and surely will stand the tests of time as one of the most effective westerns of all time, defining everything that makes the genre what it is. I may not be an avid supporter of the genre as a whole, but when a western is done right it can be nothing short of amazing. `Unforgiven' is done very, very right....more info
- A Very Good Western
Clint Eastwood directs and starts in 'Unforgiven' He does a great job with both roles.
Clint plays William Munny, a long retired gunfighter. Munny settled down years earlier with his wife and children. Times are rough. Now widowed, he is struggling to get by and raise his two kids. In the midst of this, the son of one of his old cohorts finds him and lets him know about a large reward for killing two thugs who disfigured a prostitute. The other women who she works with pooled their money to buy some justice since the sheriff, Little Bill (Gene Hackman) took virtually no action.
Munny wants to involve his old partner Ned (Morgan Freeman). Soon the three ride off toward Big Whiskey, Wyoming to track down the malefactors. A lot of action including a considerable amount of violence follows.
This is a very well done western that will likely be enjoyed by all fans of that genre....more info
- OVERrated, but still good
It's all these guys in their later years so kind of goofy to see them as trying to be studs. Hackman is the best thing in the movie. BR continues to miss on the extras. ...more info
- Dark message in classic western flair
The dark message comes through in this Eastwood creation of classic western genre. It is a foreboding and frightening tale of a bad man turned good then returning to his past - or is it that his past is coming back to drag him down again? The cynicism is thick in the theme that there is no one good. And even the bad are in for more than what they bargained for in this hard-hitting gun-slinging action drama. If you enjoy the do-good classics, you may not like this film which is a little heavy-handed in its realism concerning the use of violence to settle scores. Like most cynical statements, it is difficult to swallow and leaves you uneasy whether you enjoy the realism or dislike the taste it leaves behind. The story is moving and you cannot help but uneasily relate to the main character in all his violent flaws. ...more info
- No more INSERT Second Disc!
This is a beutiful western with one of the original western stars, Clint Eastwood!
What i'd love about this DVD is that the movie won't be spread over two disc (like the previous DVD edition!)!!
Just for that, this is a Must HAVE!...more info
- great movie!! Much improved picture.
This is one of the best Eastwood movies. Clint bought and sat on this script for years until he though he was ready and aged enough to play his character William Munny. The special edition release is well worth the extra price for the upgraded video transfer alone. ...more info
- yummy junk food - enjoy!
As far as grandiose Westerns go, this is about my favorite - along with McCabe and Mrs. Miller. It's a story of two old retired gunfighters, long reformed in their ways, stepping back into the ring for one last hurrah of badness - assassination for hire. The movie builds tension wonderfully, creates a magical vibe of reality (minus the rather cheesy acting of the young guy who plays the "Scofield Kid"), is full of flesh-and-blood, fallible characters with whom you can empathize and whom you can hate - or be sickened by, or root for... And best of all this movie has QUITE the payoff. It WORKS. Mostly Hollywood stinks. Not here. And frankly, Clint Eastwood rocks. He plays his part to the T.
Okay, two more little criticisms:
1) The scene where Morgan Freeman and Clint Eastwood discuss sex and masturbation came out of left field and deflated the reality of the moment. So cheesy. Morgan to Clint, set in 1880: "Do you use your hand?" WHATEVER!
2) The violence at points went a bit far for me. Yes, it added to the drama and reality of the movie, but how many times does a guy need to get kicked in the bloody face?...more info
- Great movie
Bought this as a gift for my husband as this is his favorite Western. Love the bonus disc!...more info
- A FINE WESTERN DRAMA FROM CLINT EASTWOOD.
"Unforgiven" is one of the many entries into THE American film genre. According to Clint Eastwood, the film's star and director, it "summarizes everything I feel about the western." And it is a fine western film, filled with fascinating characters, exciting gunfights, and beautiful choreography. The story itself is fascinating, though it is a bit slow and uneven in some places.
Clint Eastwood gives what is arguably his best performance as Bill Munny, a former gunslinger and cold-blooded killer, who's changed his ways, but agrees to collect one more bounty in order to support his two children. We see how violence can corrupt a human being, and how past demons can truly eat at him, and Eastwood plays this perfectly. Morgan Freeman, one of my all-time favorites, gives another terrific performance as Ned Logan, Munny's old partner. Gene Hackman is brutal, but also scarily likable, as the villainous Little Bill Daggett, the corrupt sheriff of the town. It isn't hard to see why he won an Oscar for his performance. The rest of the cast turn in solid performances as well, and help to keep the story both interesting and involving.
Overall, "Unforgiven" is a fine, if slow and uneven, entry into the genre with great performances and well-done gunfights. Fans of western and drama alike will find much to enjoy in this modern-day western.
Movie/DVD Grade: B+...more info
- My Favorite Western
I LOVE Westerns, and this is by far my all-time favorite. Here is America's greatest movie genre, the Western, writ large, with three (count 'em) three gunslingers who rise to mythic proportions: William Monie (Eastwood), Little Bill (Gene Hackman), and English Bob (Richard Harris). It's got it all: sex, violence, some tenderness and even plenty of humor. Great lines, and the best shoot-out at the end I've ever seen. I have to grab a bowl of popcorn and turn off all the lights for the last 15 minutes even though I've seen it dozens of times....more info
- Citizen Kane in 1880
Not only one of the best westerns, but one of the best films ever made. This subtle look at the human condition as it existed in the 1880s West is graced with a superb script, incredible photography, truly exceptional acting, and a universal theme that reminds us that "we've all got it comin' kid." Proof that Clint Eastwood is an all-time great artist in the media of film. By all means, watch it. Think about it....more info
Unforgiven was a pretty bad western but not as bad as Pale Rider. Again, Eastwood is given the perfect plot - a bad man turned good forced to return to his old ways for the want of money, the job, to kill two cattlemen who sliced up a prostitute's face. These old veterans, reluctantly, go back to their old ways after the girls of the cathouse put together a big enough "steak" to kill them. Again, the movie had too much talk and not enough action. The ending was an improvement, but by the time I got there I felt like I wasted my time. This movie did not merit the best picture Oscar Award. There are many other westerns that are far more deserving. If you liked: the Good the Bad and the Ugly, For a Few More Dollars, A Fist Full of Dollars, High Noon (Gary Cooper) or Stage Coach (John Wayne) do not watch this film unless you want to disappoint yourself. ...more info
- Unforgiven DVD purchase
Received in a very timely manner and in great condition. I would definitely order from this vendor again!...more info
It had been ages since I'd watched this. I saw it in a theater in the U.S. when it was new. And I was carrying many memories which were quite vague beyond the words, "This is great." Remembering more detail than that was kinda like Clint's character, William Munny, trying to remember everybody he killed. It's been a long time, a lot of miles, and a whole lot of drinkin'.
So, what are my thoughts on UNFORGIVEN this week, all these years later, watching the DVD at my home in China?
First scene, a bad guy slices a whore's face. I was appalled. I thought that perhaps it was a good movie but maybe that scene was gratuitous. Or maybe they just wanted to show us, "That guy needed killin," which is still a valid defense in the South. So, I decided to let it play.
A bit later, Gene Hackman's kicking the mess out of Richard Harris. I was appalled again. And this film never got any kinder or gentler. But isn't Gene Hackman wonderful? What a performance. Has he ever made a bad movie? None I've seen.
Finally, I remembered. This appalling, ugly violence was deliberate. When I first saw this movie, I'd been ingesting a steady diet of Hollywood, and I got the message even back then. I've been away from that diet a long time, and the message was even more obvious.
(Too obvious? Not for the crowd that admires Dirty Harry.)
Violent deeds carry heavy consequences. Gawd, that looks so flat as I type it. So trite. But heck, maybe you've seen some real world violence yourself. And then you see the Hollywood version. So different. This film did try to show us just how divergent the two are.
A soldier in Iraq claimed that whenever you kill somebody, you kill a piece of yourself. True, and yet a slight bit simplistic at the same time. To explain why I write that would be to sermonize ad nauseum, which is something the film never does. It is what it is, folks. Watch it.
The DVD also contains some very cool stuff about how it was made.
- How the West was really won.
Clint Eastwood takes his place beside Western film-making legends John Ford ("The Searchers") and Sam Peckinpah ("The Wild Bunch") with this classic. Eastwood, in effect, questions the genre that made him the way John Wayne and John Ford did in "The Searchers" (through gritty realism). A big question you're left with at the end is "Do these people(Europeans/Americans) really represent civilization or is there a bit more to the story?"
Great cast but even greater approach in the storytelling. "Unforgiven" is unrelenting realism and that is messy. Witness -- clumsy and near-sighted cowboys, outhouse assassinations, moral ambiguity, guilt by association resulting in a man's death, killing prompts remorse (and sometimes not). Essentially, very weighty matters translated to the spaghetti Western (thus showing Old West more like it was than most such films dare depict to their jingoistic audiences).
Eastwood parodies his "Pale Rider" character and the mythic man on the white horse through playing a domesticated gunslinger who can't properly mount his horse or stay on it that well. Gene Hackman plays the cruel yet personable and smiling sheriff who happens to be a lousy carpenter. Morgan Freeman and Richard Harris add to the exotic mix. Harris's British bounty hunter makes light of presidential assassinations, another example of the dark humor that pervades "Unforgiven." This film is not for laughs. "Blazin' Saddles" it ain't.
Eastwood's character delivers one of American cinema's most memorable lines about living and killing. Don't miss it.
- Second greatest western?
I wrestle with my mind wondering whether this is the second greatest westerb ever made or just where it sits or whether one should divide quality ratings by time period.
I'll just go the simple route and say that in my opinion Clints movie, The Unforgiven, sits only behind Fords, The Searchers, as the greatest western ever brought to film.
I screwed up and bought the DVD after seeing the movie "in house". I should have forseen the development of Blu Ray and waited. Now I am fighting with myself over whether to spring for the bucks to buy the Blu Ray version as well. Might not. Might just wait until Dish brings it to Hi def television and trap in on Tivo....more info
- Excellent service , hasta Mexico
I always fan from Clin Eastwood Movies and here in Monterrey, Mexico is hard to find special editions , only under order and is always is the double priced. But this is my first buy from amazon and recomended a lot, the time arrival estimated was by 1 month , and i receive my DVD in only 4 days , amazing ,specially from this seller, SO have the security of you receive your product any place in Mexico or Latin America.
The movie is probably great. I'll never know through any use of the DVD I received. The "details" in the order indicated this was an "All Region" DVD. It was not & therefore, will not play in my DVD player, Blu Ray player or even my PC. It might make a nice coaster except for the hole in the middle. I also ordered "the Wild Bunch" in the same format. It will not play in any of my machines either.
What's even more frustrating is that the cases are marked "Not Authorized for Sale or Rental outside the USA and Canada". Somewhere outside of these two countries is the only place these might function. ...more info
- Bleak, unsparing, jarring, and brilliant...
When I first saw this film, I have to admit I thought it was good, but not great. Further viewings (including a recent one) have made me changed my mind and hang my head in shame. This is one of the greatest Westerns ever made, and one of Eastwood's crowning achievements as a filmmaker and as an actor.
The film is uncommonly dark, even for an Eastwood film. It starts off with a brutal rape scene, and ends with a shootout. The cinematography is masterful, arguably the best in any Eastwood film. Eastwood's character, Billy, is really trying to go straight after spending a lifetime of killing, whoring, and maiming. His wife is dead, his farm is failing, and he's worried about his children. He gets a chance to get some money, but he has to find and kill the people who raped and beat up(and got away with it) a prostitute at the beginning of the film. Over the course of the film, Eastwood's quest becomes more brutal and darker, concluding in what has to be the best, most brooding scene in all of Eastwood's work. The final scene takes place in the bar/brothel where the rape/assault took place. The scene starts in a wide shot, then you see Eastwood's rifle make an entrance, but it's only his rifle. It's a brilliant entrance, one of the greatest in Western movie history, and the concluding shootout is as menancing and as cruel as the West could be.
This film won Eastwood his first Oscar, and it's a film that deserved all its accolades. Most Best Picture Oscar winners are rather safe and tame films, but this is one of the exceptions where an uncommonly dark film swept the awards. It also rejuvinated Eastwood's career a bit. He had just directed and starred in The Rookie, a film that is considered his worst film by mostly everyone, including fans (for the record, it's not that bad of a film. Pink Cadillac is Clint's worst movie). The Rookie was a box office and critical bomb. So when this film appeared, it really brought Eastwood back, and he's been there ever since. Unforgiven is considered one of the greatest Westerns ever made, and deservedly so.
For the record, buy the 2 disc special edition DVD, not the single disc edition. The single disc edition (which is thankfully out of print) is a very poor edition, with an unremarkable, grainy transfer, no special features, and a bizarre scene selection menu that is impossible to navigate. The 2 disc edition has an excellent transfer of the film, several excellent documentaries, including one where we see Clint making his vastly underrated 1997 film Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, and an episode of Maverick with Clint in a supporting role. ...more info
- cheap dvd box
Great movie but comes in the cheapest, flimsiest DVD box you can imagine. Not recommended if you like your DVD collection to look good....more info
- The attractive murderer
"Unforgiven" certainly looks beautiful, especially in HD. And I admit it is a very good film with a lot of good points, perfect timing, excellent acting, good characters, the works. And it has a lot more nuance than westerns normally have.
But I will contend that ultimately it still boils down to the same old thing: admiration for a killer.
When William Munny, in the charismatic and handsome frame of Clint Eastwood, rides out of Big Whiskey in the end, saying that if anybody hurt the prostitutes for putting up the blood money, he will come back and kill everybody, there is pretty much not anybody watching who does not feel deep in his/her gut: "my god, there is a MAN!" You just can't help it, it's in our dark nature.
And you can even see this excemplified in the admiring and longing looks given him by the writer fellow and by the prostitute with the scars, as they watch him leave.
There is no way around it: it is gut-level admiration for a man who by his own admission has killed many innocent men, and women, and children, and who killed several more just minutes ago. And the film aims for it, it is where it gets its marketing power.
I am shocked that I've been unable to find any other reviewers (professional or amateur) who really question this. It is not a "great wrong", but there's certainly nothing beautiful about it, and it needs to be recognized.
In a documentary about Eastwood, the narrator says about Unforgiven: "the sherif has tortured and killed Will's best friend. He has no choice but vengeance." And that's the exact untruth to be uncovered. There is always a choice. Violence begets violence, and he who breaks the chain, wins.
Don't get me wrong, I am not villainizing "the Clint" here. His hyper-violent movie characters are merely reflecting an important aspect of human nature. I'm just saying it's an aspect we'd do well to look at some more.
Another way to express my problem with it: if you listen to the movie, it is clearly against violence. The characters say it many times. But if you look at the movie, it is clearly for it. The violence is presented in a way so it is enjoyable. A friend of mine said that the final big gun battle was "like an orgasm".
By the way, I'm just watching the documentary about the film, and DW Peoples (the writer) does say that the reason people think it's an anti-violence movie is that most other movies are "pro-violence" in the sense that if it is the good guy doing it to the bad guy, it's OK. But that reality is more complex, and that it's often difficult to pinpoint who's the "good guy" and who's the "bad guy". Which I think is wise. You'll notice that each participant in a fight always thinks of himself as the good guy.
I will concede that within the framework of a big, popular, Hollywood movie, this film is probably as far as we can currently go towards an anti-violence movie. If you'd made a movie like this and not made the violence seductive and aesthetic, it would instantly have lost 90% of its audience. At least. ...more info