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If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Nirvana should've been quite flattered by Sixteen Stone. The English quartet perfectly mimics the early '90s grunge sound with this '94 release. As for Kurt Cobain comparisons, singer Gavin Rossdale has a captivating voice, but lyrics are not his forte, as the splintered ramblings of "Everything Zen" indicates. (Gotta do better than "There's no sex in your violence.") The players meanwhile produce a perfectly competent approximation of their Northwestern heroes. "Little Things" is a successful rewrite of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" while "Machinehead" crunches like Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. In fact, the whole album feels like a throwback to 1992. Sixteen Stone may be derivative, but it's catchy as hell, too. --Rob O'Connor
Special limited edition release, in a double slimline jewel case, adds an acoustic version of 'Come Down' to their triple platinum debut album and also includes a four track bonus disc of live recordings from March 1996. 17tracks.
Special limited edition release, in a double slimline jewel case, adds an acoustic version of 'Come Down' to their triple platinum debut album and also includes a four track bonus disc of live recordings from March 1996. 17tracks.
- Classic 90's rock
When this album came out in 1994, you either loved it or hated it. Most of those who hated it did so because they sounded too much like Nirvana (and Nirvana at this time were gods). Regardless of the criticisms, it didn't seem to hurt the album's success. "Everything Zen," "Machinehead", "Little Things," "Comedown," and "Glycerine" were huge hits -- all over the radio. I still hear these songs today on the local modern rock radio station. This is because of one good reason -- the songs are incredible, regardless of their supposed lack of originality. Bush (along with Collective Soul, Live, Foo Fighters, and others) created what would be called post-grunge rock, which is basically a more polished grunge sound with greater pop-sensibility. This sound dominated the rest of the 90's (for example, Third Eye Blind in the late 90's) until the rise of various metal groups (such as Linkin Park) and emo-punk groups (such as Taking Back Sunday) that dominate modern rock radio today.
This debut album from Bush will forever be considered as one of the greatest albums of the 90's (certainly in terms of success). For those of us who grew-up in that decade, it will forever form the soundtrack of our lives at that time and indubitably will bring back fond memories. Bush was a great band for a simple reason -- they had great songs which nearly everybody loved.
Here's my album recommendations for those interested in post-grunge rock of the 90's:
Bush - "Sixteen Stone"
Live - "Throwing Copper"
Collective Soul - "Collective Soul"
Stone Temple Pilots - "Purple"
Candlebox - "Candlebox"
The Offspring - "Smash"
Foo Fighters - "Colour & The Shape"
Everclear - "So Much for the Afterglow"
Our Lady Peace - "Clumsy"
Hum - "You'd Prefer an Astronaut" (includes their one and only hit, "Stars," which is perhaps my favorite song of the 90's)...more info
Excellent songs: Glycerine
Good songs: Little Things, Machinehead
dull, boring,not interesting; Glycerine is the only song that rises above mediocrity
Conclusion: not recommended...more info
- Gavin, Gavin, Gavin.
Sixteen Stone by Bush was a average album and some of the tracks are still catchy to this day such as: Machinehead, Glycerine, Everything Zen, Swim, Monkey, and Comedown. Bush wasn't a band that had staying power but the 90s wouldn't have been the same without that handsome face, Gavin Rossdale....more info
- Impressive first album, not a great one though.
But their are some killer tunes on here that will just blow your head off.
Best ones? "Everything Zen" "Little Things" "Comedown" ...more info
- Its the "Little Things" on this album which "kills"
A singles collection more appropriatley with underdeveloped guitar based riffed songs.
Bush are a terrible depressing sounding band, that have a wickedly cool guitar sound, they just don't know how to put it in the right direction on this album.
I suggest "Razorblade Suitcase" or "The Science Of Things" as oppossed to this. Them albums are much much better than this collection of noisy guitar blaring.
Although an exception must be made to "Little Things."
Without a doubt I would rate that as a much cooler sounding song than "Smells Like Teen Spririt."
Gavin Rossdale having many teenage girl fans, is what killed this band and made them a joke.
And their later albums, well no one was around to realise that they were alot better musically than "6teen stone."
Nothing quite blows your head than Bush's guitars in this album.
Its not a very focused album on the whole, but that does'nt matter, thats what makes the whole album as good as it is.
Its a mix of catchy tunefully raw guitar riff sounding songs and raw unmelodic songs that focus mainly on instrumentals.
Whatever the heak it is, its brilliant without a doubt.
Oh and by the way, its completley pointless comapring Nirvana to Bush, because they sound absolutley nothing like one another.
(Unless your stupid and boring enough to sit down and compare "Smells Like Teen Spirit" to the similiar riff in "Little things" $#$%%% hell, its just bloddy pointless!!!)
Lets see you try and right an really great original song then?
If your gonna complain about a bands music, write your own thats better.
(gee I wrote that with so much agreesion I made some spelling mistakes)...more info
- Some great songs.........
.........but Bush progressed their sound for the better.
The problem with this album, is it sounds all to much the same, and as a whole, its drowned out with to many amplified guitar sounds.
Best skip this one, and take a look at the darker and edgiear sound of "Razor Blade Suitcase" or "The Science Of Things" in which is their most melodic and musically best album.
"Goldenstate" is a no nonsense rock album - probably their best on thw whole and with a nice warm edgy sound to it.
A very underappreciated band, especially considering the uniqueness of their last two albums....more info
- excellent cd
I am very pleased with my new Bush cd: Sixteen Stone. The sound is great; there are no scratches or problems. The quality of the cd was advertised accurately and honestly. Thank you!
Cheri Miller...more info
- great then, better now
I loved this album when it came out in 1994 and I love it even more now!!!! ...more info
- england's "nevermind"-a fabulous entry
bush burst onto the americas in 1994 with "everything zen" and i knew they were gonna be something big."sixteen stone" proves that bush was the best grunge band to emerge from the Brits."everything zen" is of course an amazing and eerie track."swim" is a fun lsiten.now onto "little things"
"little things" might be in my top 5 songs of all time.it has everything.catchiness,grunginess,singalongability-haha i know,and heaviness mixed in.it is a quintissential jam that must be included in everyones musical diet.
"comedown" is a hook laden track while "machinehead" is driving and fun."glycerine" displays bush's unamped side.very crafty work.
"sixteen stone" is a fine piece of mid 90's post grunge rock,and it proves that not all good music comes from the states....more info
- Great stuff!
This, along with Golden State, seems to be the best example of their work in rock. If you purchased Golden State and are looking for more great Bush music, get this one next. I've been a Bush music fan for a long time, so I actually listened to this a while ago....more info
- One of the best hard rock/grunge cds ever.
Bush hit it big right when I was getting into hard rock and metal, back in junior high. Five hit singles propelled this album into the stratosphere, and it became one of the most-played albums of the decade. They deserve a place right along Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and Stone Temple Pilots. While I believe all of those bands to be superior in talent and had more impressive careers, Bush was great on 16 Stone and Razorblade Suitcase. Those two albums made them one of the biggest bands of the 90s.
Buy this album for the hits, but I think you'll be surprised that every song is worth your time. "Everything Zen", "Little Things", "Comedown", "Machinehead", and "Glycerine" are all classics. For those who complain about the lyrics: I say it's not what you sing but how you sing it. And I think that applies well, because Gavin is a talented vocalist who comes up with great vocal hooks. The lyrics might not be the best, but that is a trivial matter to me. This is a must-have cd for anyone who likes hard rock and grunge. ...more info
- One thing lame corporate rock radio got right . . .
Some people hate this just because it is (or was) so popular. They're being just as closed-minded as people who only listen to music dictated to them by radio. This album totally shreds. Gavin Rossdale's raspy voice is painfully sexy. True, they were influenced by grunge and you could say they jumped that bandwagon. "Little Things" (which I love) does resemble Nirvana, but really, Bush has their own sound. You know when you're hearing Bush instead of run-of-the-mill grunge like Puddle of Mudd or Saliva. Hey, everyone has their influences, even Nirvana.
And while there's something like 5 or 6 mega radio hits off of SIXTEEN STONE, the other stuff is great too. In fact, my favorite track is the multi-faceted non-hit "Body" ("Will you come again?/ Will we stay friends?"). A close second would be "Glycerene" (a huge hit of course) which feels like a warm, euphoria-inducing hug despite how sad it is. The machismo-indicting "Testosterone" is a riot. I love this whole album.
SIXTEEN STONE is so good that Bush has never been able to top it. Album-wise they've never really come close. I might say their best song is actually "Chemicals Between Us" from THE SCIENCE OF THINGS, but sadly the rest of that album pales in comparison. What happened to this band? I guess being "Mr. Gwen Stefani" is a full-time job. Can't really blame him though - wish I had it! ...more info
- Bush at their best
This is a five star cd, espically with its five great singles: Everything Zen, Little Things, Comedown, Machinehead, and my personal fav Glycerine. But cant forget the other 7 songs which make the album complete. I definity recommend this album....more info
- After the dust has settled, I like this CD a lot
When Bush was really popular, I was not a fan. I let my bias interfere with my enjoyment of their music.
I'll get the negative stuff out of the way.
When I first heard singles on the radio in 1995 from Bush, I really hated them. So I can understand why people do not like this band. I'll state the obvious: they are totally unoriginal. They were/are Nirvana clones and just jumped on the grunge bandwagon. Pretty/pinup boy Gavin Rossdale's poor me/torctured lyrics sound contrived and calculated; just waiting to be eaten up by a nation of high school kids. In short, Bush was the Bon Jovi of the grunge/alternative movement. They were trend-followers. If Bush had come out in 1988, they would have had teased hair and played hair-metal.
Having said that, ten years after the fact, I find myself quite fond of this album. About a year ago, I stopped in at a used CD shop and bought this album out of nostalgia, as I had never owned a copy during Bush's heyday. I put it in my discman and was transported back in time; it was 1995, I was still in High School, Bill Clinton was still the President, and I had never heard of Creed or Limp Bizkit.
When I listen to "Sixteen Stone" now, I find that this is actually a very good album. It's a modern rock classic. Sure it's contrived and unoriginal, but the songs themselves are excellent. From the opener "Everything Zen" to the closing "x-girlfriend" there really aren't any bad songs. This album contains some of the very best radio-singles from 90's rock. "Everything Zen," "Little Things" and "Glycerine" are some of the most memorable songs from that era. The entire album is well crafted and written. Every song has a good hook and grove. Nigel Pulsford is an excellent guitar player and the album is chock-full of killer solos, something that was lacking in popular music just a few year later (Korn, Limp Bizkit).
In conclusion; no this band was not all that original, but they still wrote great songs. Furthermore, this album has stood the test of time. It does sound dated, but paradoxically, it also sounds as fresh today as it did when it first came out. Furthermore, everything I used to hate about this band-how it was contrived, it's cookie-cutter singles, it's pretty-boy frontman with anguished lyrics and perfect-cheek bones--everything I used to hate, I now find to be charming. "Sixteen Stone" is a 90s gem. It is a perfect time capsule and still-photo of a certain time and era. And most importantly, it rocks!...more info
- One of the best bands of all time.
This probably their best album, has some mega mega songs on it, the guitars a raw edgy and just blow you off your seat.
Brilliant debut record as well, just awesome.
- Awesome grunge album!
Definitely a gem. Way better than lame post-grunge bands like Mudhoney, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, etc. Not as good as Staind, however, because they're the best grunge band ever....more info
this is what made Bush what they are..everyone that was old enough to play a stereo knew Bush in the 90's...machinehead, Glycerine, Little Things, Everything Zen, Comedown are all great songs...even if you dont know Bush you will still find some pleasure out of this album....more info
- What if Nirvana sucked?
For anyone who ever lay awake at night contemplating the above question, this CD provides the answer....more info
- Good Freshman Effort
I found this album to be one of the better Bush cd's and yes, if you like nirvana then you probably would like 16stone but I think lead vocalist Gavin Rossdale, Nigel, Robin and Dave filling out the band add their own sound to the genre. The songs aren't complicated musically (Gylcerine has about 5 powers chords in the whole song) but they let the excellent songwriting speak for itself away from overdone guitars. I bought it when it first came out and loved it then and it still has a place beside my CD player. Very good cd....more info
- Greatest CD of the 90's
Sixteen Stone is the best CD of the 90's because Bush was the best band of the 90's (they beat Nirvana at their own game). Sixteen Stone offers everything you could ask for from a 90's rock album. Buy it - "there's no sex in your violence"....more info
- You've Been Warned...
In one phrase: NO TALENT.
In one review:
Bush, a polished British contribution to grunge, is extremely unoriginal and not very talented (notice on the album that singer/guitar player Gavin Rossdale can't sing and play guitar at the same time). The music of Bush's first release, Sixteen Stone, is extremely tired-sounding. There are absolutely no fast-tempo songs, and the guitars are the muddiest and messiest I've ever heard. There are very few guitar solos, and the ones that do exist are very elementary. I've been told by several people that Bush is a British knock-off of Nirvana, and I agree with them. Their sound is too close to Nirvana for comfort, and it smacks of musical plagiarism. Overall, the music of Sixteen Stone has the precision and prowess of a high school garage band.
The lyrics are the most embarassing aspect of the whole album. It appears that Gavin and crew tried to sound ambiguous-mysterious-sexy-sounds-like-a-jumble-of-words-but-on-purpose, and the attempt falls flat. I know that many grunge/alternative artists purposefully make their lyrics out to be very ambiguous, [...]
If there were choice cuts (which there aren't), I would choose the singles: "Comedown", Machinehead", and "Glycerine". The rest of the album is less than filler material - it sounds like songs that my brother's old ninth-grade band decided NOT to play at parties.
The best aspect of the album is the Gillian Spilchuk painting on the inside of the album. I wish I had a print of that to hang in my home.
Don't bother with Bush's later albums - nobody else did. ...more info
- "Maybe all we need is water and friends..."
Ah, 1995... the memories. Sega Genesis, pogs, Ren & Stimpy, Angus, Mallrats, et cetera. The warm summer days that, as a nine-year-old kid, I thought/wished would never end... and, of course, the music. Back then, alternative music was GOOD. It meant something, not just whiny, boring, uninspired, downtuned, same-three-chords-the-whole-damn-album-I'm-so-depressed-woe-is-me crap. It was fun, it could be anguished, it could be fast, it could be mid-tempo, it could be slow, it could be angry, it could be happy.
Which brings us to Bush. Now, when this album was released in late 1994, many just wrote it off as a Nirvana knock-off. Well, okay. It is similar to Nirvana. There's no denying that. And, also, Nirvana is better. It's true. However, Bush is actually a really good band, and this album, their debut, is undeniably their best album, and a great piece of the mid-1990's.
Everyone has at least heard the songs "Everything Zen", "Machinehead" (my personal favorite), "Comedown", and "Glycerine". All great songs. But also, we get "Swim", a great mid-tempo rocker, the Nirvana-ish "Little Things", "Body", which has a great hook ("Are you paralyzed?..."), and the weird but oddly interesting "X-Girlfriend". This is truly when alternative was worth listening to.
The only low point I can think of for this album is the lyrics. (Check out "Everything Zen".) But the delivery is so good, it's forgivable. If you like 90's rock, or Nirvana, check this album out (along with "Razorblade Suitcase"). It's a great relic of what just might be the last great era. (before pop-rap like Nelly dominated the airwaves... oy!)...more info
- Buy It!!
Sixteen Stone is probably my favorite album from all of the 90s. It's likely the band's best work. Some CDs you buy because you like the single that's one the radio. In fact, that's why I bought this album to begin with. Sometimes you find that it's the only good song on the CD and sometimes you find that every other song is just as good. This album is certainly an example of the latter. Buy this CD. You must own it....more info
- Gritty album short on substance and high on yearning
Bush was a mini British invasion...sort of. The London quartet broke onto the American music scene in 1994 with the power rant "Everything Zen" and have since attempted to solidify their place in the American airwaves. There are a couple interesting features of the band. First, no one in Britain listened to them. Second, they were enormously popular in America. Why?
Bush is a British Nirvana, or more aptly put, a Nirvana that came from somewhere other than Seattle. Yet Bush lacks the pungent core within the chameleon pop sensibility of the grunge greats. It was this irresistable fusion that the Seattle Big Four and other grunge brick layers by the likes of Mudhoney and Dinosaur Jr belted into the ears of those who had been trained on hair metal and dance pop. 1994 marked the turning point in 90s rock and roll in which the marketable punk-metal fusion had grown too marketable. What emerged was a string of bands who were not there when the wave crested, but wanted to ride on its strength before it broke. Bush is one of those bands who were post-grunge before the term was cast into the bowels of eye-rolling sneers. But sadly, the reason for the band's failure in Britain turned out to be the driving force behind their success in America. What Kurt Cobain brought to the masses, the public salivated over. And they wanted more.
Bush's debut, "Sixteen Stone" is indicative of their sensibilities in all the right places, and their lack of substance in all the wrong ones. Rossdale's gutteral draw is pungently sexy, but his lyrics stumble. "thinning ice, fourteen hairdryers, I'm swimming to you, flame on earth desire." The Pixies wrote some weird songs with lyrics that left you wondering "what the f--k?." Rossdale's disjointed jigsaw puzzles leave that taste in the mouth but without the pleasant aftertaste. The whole album has little to say. Its anthems portray anything from disillusioned youth to obsessive relationships to steroid-happy jocks, whichever it is in anyone's guess. "Machinehead" rocks without a point and the blaring "Testosterone" tries for a parody, yet sounds exactly like the rest of the album.
It's not that Bush is a bad band. The musicians are no virtuosos but play their role with rock sensibility. Robin Goodridge thunders out Animal-esque lines while Dave Parsons thumps the gloomy bass. Guitarist Nigel Pulsford's licks, though few and far between, are a guilty pleasure of screeching distortion and flailing flanger. He's no J. Mascis, but then again he's never given the opportunity. The issue with Bush is that they're trying too hard to fit the mold set for them by overseas grunge, and they're more than willing to squish in. The album reeks of juvenile power chords and the tired soft-loud progression. Through the gloomy muck of "Bomb" and "Swim", the album fights for a climax and never reaches one. The minute-long "ex girlfriend" speaks more clearly than any of the radio-length singles and it's composed of merely one line droned..."you only call me when you're down".
Some moments stand out. Unfortunately one has to sift through ten songs to find them. The dreamy "Alien" is filled with angelic feedback layered over a calm bassline which acts as the gasp of fresh air. Rossdale's silly lyrics emerge again, but at least give an impression this time around, hinging on sincerity. The declaration to "the beautiful rain" and the dizzying ascent of distortion is the album's finest moment. The only counterpart is the minimalist "Glycerine", featuring only Rossdale's voice among his catchy four chord progression. The lyrics speak no more than anything else on the album, but they connect. We see a lost love, a heartfelt yearning, something. And after a tired hour, something IS something.
Bush should have died in 1994. But the power vacuum formed with the demise of Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains left many a handhold in the vortex. Before Matchbox 20, there was Bush. As shameless as the Londoners were, they provided nostalgia for what happened in the first half of the 1990s....more info
- Oustanding guitar sounds.
Nothing quite hits you like Bush's guitars sound and their crazy slideing solos.
While this album sounds a bit thrown together, it does contain some brilliant tracks such as "Everything Zen" "Little Things" and "Come down" AND "Bomb."
The rest are little undeveloped, but "Alien" has is'nt half bad either, although the chorus is what stands out.
As for "Glycerine" well, tlak about overatedness!!!...more info
- Rock 'n Roll criminals
Okay, I'm sure everyone has already yanked about the very close similarities between Nirvana and Bush, so perhaps I'd try to write it from another point of wiev, atleast a little. What we have here is total rip-off, and even 5 million (!) people bought this copycat, I think. If this would've happened in the 1980's, no big deal, cause very few rock bands born in the 80's hair metal hell stood that much out of the croud, of course a few but, anyway, considering the type of rock; alternative or grunge, it is the opposite to 80's rock, it isn't really supposed to be entertaining in the same way, so I think that it's easier to be a bad 90's rock band, instead of a good one, and when there really weren't many huge 90's bands, and Nirvana being one of the few, it dominated so much that everything released after "Nevermind" (1991), would've been considered rip-off. if only there was a even the slightest similarities, but Bush don't take just inspiration they mimic! there are very close notes and song structures, and lyrically Gavin is trying to be very smart and weird (the lyrics are very, very bad!), so it's just pure copying!It was easier to make music similar to Pearl Jam or Soundgarden, and not immediately being labeled knock-offs, but...Bush comes from England and they were simply fans of grunge and wanted to be a part of it, just to make a name and that money, hmm, the total opposite of the REAL grunge idea!! Sure, many songs are catchy here, but hey; catchy doesn't mean it's necessarily good. Everything Zen, the hit and the album starter, has probably the most nonsense lyrics ever! In the chorus Gavin Rossdale sounds pretty good, and I think it's really the only good thing with Bush, that their lead singer can sing, sorry but that ain't enough! A song like "Little Things" is one you can't miss (ahmm), because it reminds so much of Teen Spirit, that it's ridicilous, the res tof the album is pretty much the same, one easy guitar scale with small changes song to song, a singer with horrible lyrics but an okay voice, but only when he's not trying to sound like Kurt Cobain, so...
If you who read this, are considering buying this, think twice! If you prefer Nirvana or any other orig. grunge-scene band stick to them! This is useless. If you want a british band, try to take one that actually sounds british, Feeder being my fav. brit band. If you don't care about originality, then go ahead and buy it, but think twice. I think Bush made some more deasent album later on, and perhaps have they been "forgiven" for Sixteen Stone, but this debut is a crime!...more info