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There were only two ways for "classic Trek" cast members to appear in a movie with the cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation: either Capt. Kirk and his contemporaries would have to be very, very old, or there would be some time travel involved in the plot. Since geriatric heroes aren't very exciting (despite a welcomed cameo appearance by the aged Dr. McCoy), Star Trek: Generations unites Capt. Kirk (William Shatner) and Capt. Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) in a time-jumping race to stop a madman's quest for heavenly contentment. When a mysterious energy coil called the Nexus nearly destroys the newly christened U.S.S. Enterprise-B, the just-retired Capt. Kirk is lost and presumed dead. But he's actually been happily trapped in the timeless purgatory of the Nexus--an idyllic state of being described by the mystical Guinan (Whoopi Goldberg) as "pure joy." Picard must convince Kirk to leave this artificial comfort zone and confront Dr. Soran (Malcolm McDowell), the madman who will threaten billions of lives to be reunited with the addictive pleasure of the Nexus. With subplots involving the android Data's unpredictable "emotion chip" and the spectacular crash-landing of the starship Enterprise, this crossover movie not only satisfied Trek fans, but it also gave them something they'd never had to confront before: the heroic and truly final death of a beloved Star Trek character. Passing the torch to the Next Generation with dignity and entertaining adventure, the movie isn't going to please everyone with its somewhat hokey plot, but it still ranks as a worthy big-screen launch for Picard and his stalwart crew. --Jeff Shannon
- I thought it would be cooler
I thought this movie would blend the old with the new a little better. Mostly it just focuses on the new. Sure it has Kirk mingling with Picard a little bit, but that's not enough.
Still, it was worth seeing once. And only once. I think the problem with the Next Generation movies is the villians. You know the protagonists by heart, but the villians are always brand new, so you don't really care about them. It leaves the movies unbalanced.
This movie has a villian you don't care about. He's no reason to watch the movie. In fact, the only reason to watch the movie is to catch up on a few plot points to get from one movie to the next. Well, the Picard and Kirk thing is okay too I guess, but not really great.
Anyway, Picard is the man. Better than Kirk....more info
- Poor movie, but excellent DVD edition
One of the things that I find mystifying and annoying is the degree to which DVD commentary tracks can completely fail to reflect reality. Listen to the commentary track on a movie like Aliens vs. Predator (a truly awful film) and you would think that they were discussing a classic, like 2001. What is on the screen is crud, but what you hear is self-delusion.
That is why the commentary track on this Star Trek movie is so refreshing. The two writers, Ron Moore (now the executive producer on Battlestar Galactica) and Brannon Braga, talk about this movie and are surprisingly self-critical. So much of the movie simply does not work, and they admit it. And they blame themselves (although they probably resisted blaming others as well).
In particular, they are critical of several key aspects of the movie. They think that the entire Nexus plotline did not work very well and had way too many internal contradictions ("You can't think about it too much," one of them says at one point, "or it falls apart."). They really disliked the sequence where Picard goes into the Nexus and experiences a Victorian Christmas scene that is so treacly and mawkish that you want to gag (at one point one of them says something like "Whenever you have five little kids all showing 'yea!' at the same time you know you're in trouble."). (An aside: I was surprised that nobody considered using Picard's "family" from the outstanding Next Generation episode "The Inner Light" for his Nexus sequence. That would have added a powerful emotional depth to the story.) And they thought that they made a mistake by not having Picard and Kirk clash with each other. (According to Moore and Braga, both men got along extremely well on set, however.)
They also completely disliked the ending, where Captain Kirk dies. This ending was re-filmed because the original had Kirk getting shot in the back and dying unceremoniously. But the final version that they ended up with is similarly unsatisfying. A friend of mine, who ended up working on Star Trek Enterprise, once said to me that he too thought it was lame: "Kirk dies reaching for the remote," he said. Moore and Braga said that they wanted an ending that was not cliched, that did not have what everybody expected, which was Kirk dying on the bridge of a starship. But watching the movie again, they realized that that is EXACTLY what they should have done--they should have gone for the heroic ending of a hero. Instead, we're all left unfulfilled. If they had used "The Inner Light" for Picard's Nexus sequence, and had a more heroic death for Captain Kirk, this would have been a much better film. Otherwise, it is largely forgettable.
One surprise for me was their casual way of destroying the Enterprise. They resurrected this idea from a rejected TV episode after getting the idea out of a Trek technical manual. They just thought that it would be "neat." The fact that it served no real purpose in the story, and had no emotional resonance, is a major disappointment. It proves that Moore and Braga lacked the reverence for the Trek universe that was needed.
Both men note--and they are exactly right--that William Shatner nearly stole every scene he shared with Patrick Stewart. He demonstrated an enthusiasm for the role that really shone through. It proves that for all the criticism of his abilities, Shatner can certainly act.
The overall technical quality of this 2-disk set is excellent. The extras are also pretty good. The deleted scenes are fascinating for the simple fact that they are all so bad. Groan-inducingly bad. I've already mentioned the original ending (brave Captain Kirk gets shot in the back). But the original opening, with Kirk skydiving from orbit, was also badly fimed, edited, acted and written, and we are lucky it did not make it into the movie.
The tribute to Matt Jeffries, who designed the original series ship and sets, was nice, but is the kind of thing that belongs on a different DVD (such as the TV series collections). The graphic designers who worked on the later shows comment about Jeffries' work and some of them explain why it was so good--Jeffries strove for a bold, distinctive look using relatively simple lines. As one person notes, Jeffries knew that the ship had to be recognizeable as it zoomed across the screen, so he gave it large, distinctive elements.
The short on filming the special effects was also interesting, although it left me wanting more. One surprising revelation was that the cameras often damage the models during close passes, requiring constant touch-up. Unfortunately, nobody mentioned that the visual designers felt that the TV series ship was the wrong shape for the more rectangular movie screen, and whether or not this influenced the writers' decision to destroy the ship. (It does explain the fact that the later Enterprise is much longer than the TV series version--so it fills up more of the movie screen.) I wished there had been more footage of the modified Enterprise 1701-B and the spacedock.
Star Trek Generations was not a good movie, but this is a pretty good DVD collection that can be enjoyed for what it is....more info
- Star Trek: Generation Gap
This movie was made in an environment that stacked the deck against it. They finished the run of The Next Generation and put this movie out in the end of that very same year. Jumping right in to a rushed production is not a good start for a movie.
Additional constraints include (but aren't limited to):
* They had to make a "passing the torch" movie, bridging the two movie series
* They needed to destroy the Enterprise D since it was designed for the aspect ratio and picture quality of the television format, not the big screen.
* They had a director with no prior movie experience (though he had directed episodes of the show, so he was familiar with the cast and crew)
* Sections of the script leaked out onto the then brand spanking new internet, forcing several last minute rewrites, including the infamous death scene.
Add all of that together, and it's amazing that this movie works as well as it does. It pales in comparison to the Nicholas Meyer movies, but it does have its own charm. It largely plays out like a big-screen episode of the series, but compared to the original cast's first movie, it's Shakespeare.
In the end, it's mainly one for the fans, but you probably already suspected that....more info
- No Trailers
I was strolling through my local electronics store on the 9th and was able to grab a copy of this special editon DVD. I was shocked to learn later at Amazon that it had been recalled.
The DVD packaging does mention the inclusion of trailers on the 2nd disc but in reality they are not on the disc. That seems to be the only fault I can find thus far.
I have enjoyed watching the deleted scenes on disk 2.
I hope for all the other fans that the DVD is back on store shelves very soon.
- "I just love scanning for lifeforms!"
This is a wonderful movie. Near my top on the Star Trek list (Star Trek IV is still competing for top nod on my list). If you like Star Trek: The Next Generation, then this will be awesome. The Next Gen cast doesn't come in until the sea ship holodeck scene, in which there is a funny part (but Geordi says, "Not funny!") Oh well, Data tries. Anyway, I won't spoil the rest for you, except that Kirk makes one last hurrah. Enjoy it! Have a nice day and God Bless!...more info
- Get it for the great extras!!!!
I recently ordered this DVD just for the extras. The movie was ok for me but the extras in this set is just great.... I would have given it 5 stars if it weren't for the movie... But the extras says it all.... 4 stars for the extras!!!
Here are the extras that will be included in this special collectors edition DVD:
-Audio Commentary by Brannon Braga & Ron Moore
-Text Commentary by Michael Okuda and Denise Okuda
Star Trek Universe
-A Tribute To Matt Jeffries
-The Enterprise Lineage
-Captain Picard's Family Album
-Creating 24th Century Weapons
-Uniting Two Legends
-Stellar Cartography: Creating The Illusion
-Strange New Worlds: The Valley Of Fire
-Inside ILM: Models And Miniatures
-Crashing The Enterprise
-Main Title Sequence
-The Nexus Ribbon
-Saucer Crash Sequence
-Walking The Plank
-Christmas With The Picards
Overall, this is a must have for Star Trek fans out there... Engage!!!...more info
- Generations: A worthy revival
I highly recommend the all-new Special Edition of "Star Trek: Generations". I liked this film when I first saw it at the cinema but consequently forgot about it in light of the superior "First Contact" and "Insurrection". "Generations" is worthy of a revival. The film is so much better than I remembered it to be. Superbly acted, well written and more than competently directed, "Generations" is enhanced further by a real treasure trove of bonus features, particularly the excellent featurettes about the origins of the film, cast and crew reminiscing, some lovely tributes to the dearly departed and an illuminating look at the creation of 24th century weapons, especially knives. Deleted scenes are presented in raw and unpolished form but that's a minor quibble. On the whole, the special edition of "Generations" is as good as the previous Trek movie specials. Outstanding....more info
- What happened?
What happened to this Special Edition? Amazon listed the release date as September 7, printed ads I saw listed it as September 7, and Paramount's website listed it as September 7!
As for the film itself, I loved it. Although I would have liked to see both the classic & next generation crews all together, the story was good enough as it was. Ever since I was a kid, Kirk has been a real hero - a larger then life character who, although flawed, could always rise above his situation and win. This time, although he helps Picard win, he has given the ultimate sacrifice - his very life.
It is the way Kirk would - and had to - go.
As he pointed out to Picard, he had been 'saving the galaxy while you're grandfather was still in diapers'. And save it yet again he does, tragically for the last time.
The film is a blast, and an excellent start for the Next Generation in movies. Although some of the characters might be slighted there is every sense that 'the human adventure is just beginning'....more info
- Flawed, but a good movie.
Well, when the story begins, the Enterprise-B is being launched with Starfleet heroes, Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov. For me, it would have made more sense to have Spock and McCoy, but once Leonard Nimoy dropped out because of problems with the script, DeForest Kelley decided they had a better exit in The Undiscovered Country, and said "If Leonard's not doing it, then I'm not doing it." Well, anyways, these scenes set us up for the rest of the movie, which really has nothing to do with the original series cast.
On the whole, Generations seems like a drawn-out, higher budget episode of The Next Generation. However, fans familiar to the series may be surprised to see some set changes, such as added consoles on the Enterprise-D bridge, or the bright orange lighting in Ten Forward. For villains, Malcolm McDowell brings out the character of Soran, and the Duras sisters from a few episodes of TNG appear.
Anyways, I am one of the people who feel a bit more possitive about the ending (On the DVD, they show the original - not that good). Star Trek: Generations will be most appealing to Trekkers, but it is not as good an exit for the original cast as Star Trek VI....more info
- Finally...Anamorphic Widescreen Transfer!
The first release of this movie was NOT in Anamorphic Widescreen, which means it looks terrible on a Widescreen set, unless you have a 4:3 Zoom mode to compensate for its inability to be displayed in true 16:9.
For those of you with a standard 4:3 set, this new special edition may not be worth your time...but for those with a Widescreen HDTV, this new Special Edition is a blessing! Finally, an Anamorphic Widescreen Transfer!...more info
- Passing the torch to the Next Generation: Not half-bad...
On one hand, I'm glad to see Paramount's finally come `round, and is giving the Star Trek movie line the Special-Edition-DVD-with-all-sorts-of-extras treatment. On the other hand, I wished they'd done this the FIRST time they put the movies out on DVD! But hey, why release the best stuff at the outset when they can get the fanboys to purchase the stripped-down, movie-only DVD, then turn around and release the Special Edition version a couple years later, knowin' full well the UberTrekkies will be more'n willing to trade up? Once again the ol' Dreaded DVD Double-Dip Ploy (read about this annoying phenomenon at www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/3CVFIEG84F2PF) rears its ugly head...
But even though I was royally... ticked... by Paramount's nefarious double-dip, I must admit they actually improved on the old DVD's picture and sound quality, which was great to start with. Not only is the soundtrack crisper, I can also hear the more discreet background bits that I never picked up on before on VHS and heard reasonably well on the initial DVD release. And the picture clarity and resolution is even better than before.
Anyhoo, I thought that 'Generations' was a decent entry into the Star Trek movie canon, and was better than most of the odd-numbered 'Trek movies, AKA the ones that are considered the worst of the feature film series. It had more than its fair share silly and schmaltzy moments, many of which were pointed out with a combo of delight and chagrin by screenwriters Ronald Moore and Brannon Braga in the commentary track. The big highlights here are Data's newfound emotions, and his hilarious over-the-top efforts to control them; some of his antics could give Jim Carrey a run for his money! But all fun and games aside, 'Generations' didn't seem to put a wholehearted effort into 'passing the torch' from the original show to the Next Generation. Fortunately, the subsequent 'Trek outing, 'First Contact', proved with little doubt NextGen's worthiness in taking over and maintaining the `trek film franchise... that is, until it was followed up by the consecutive disappointments `Insurrection' and `Nemesis'.
The Special Collector's Edition commentary track features screenwriters Ronald Moore and Brannon Braga talking about the grind they experienced writing the script, which wasn't helped by the fact that they were also working on the final season of NextGen at the same time. As I stated before, the pair pick apart the scenes that "didn't quite turn out as we'd have liked", as well as going over various plot holes and continuity problems. They were especially brutal about the sickly-sweet "Picard family Christmas" scene, which apparently was cut down from an even longer sequence (a rough cut of the full scene is included in Disc Two's `Deleted Scenes' section). Also covered here: their thoughts on the whole "passing-the-torch" deal & whether or not it worked out to their satisfaction, and the new ending.
Speaking of the new ending: the old one is presented in rough-cut form in the Deleted Scenes section. And lemme tell ya, it didn't work quite as well as the new ending did (shot in the back?! Puh-leeeze...), so it's a good thing they decided to change it. Come to think of it, it looks like none of the deleted scenes would've worked as well as the stuff they eventually went with in the theatrical release. From the orbital skydiving scene that was to be intercut with the champagne-bottle-in-space opening credits sequence, to the Even-More-Overdone-Picard Christmas scene, none of `em looked quite right, and the acting in them was less than decent. Of course, mebbe all they needed was for the effects to have been put in, and the dialogue re-dubbed, and they mighta worked just fine... but I doubt it. BTW I'd heard they filmed a cut-out scene where Soran tortured Geordi LaForge, which apparently didn't even make it into the `Deleted Scenes' section (mebbe Paramount made it into an "Easter egg"?)...
Then there are the usual interviews and behind-the-scenes/making-of mini-docs that tend to populate a Bonus Features platter. The most interesting mini-doc for me is the "Picard Family Album", which includes all sortsa photos, citations and "gags", including photos of the movie crews' ancestors standing in for pics of Picard's ancestors, and even behind-the-scenes photos from previous Trek-flicks. Also of interest is "Creating 24th-Century Weapons", a look at a knife-maker who's made several different knives and blades that have been seen in various Trek shows and movies, including the famed Sword of Kahless and the blade Shinzon holds aloft in the `Star Trek: Nemesis" promo poster. And lemme tell ya, the guy is REALLY into his work, and takes great pride in seeing his creations show up in the various Star Trek eppies and flicks. BTW the "stingray" gauntlet-knife he shows off near the end of the feature is a creation that's not to be missed!
I also found the behind-the-scenes look at the crashing of the Enterprise-D saucer section in miniature kinda interesting, mainly due to the effort they had to go through just to set the whole thing up. Then there's the "Valley of Fire" piece, which covers the reshoot of the new death-of-Kirk scene, and provides a reasonably convincing response from the good captains about the rumors of a "rift" between them. Also of some interest to me was the tribute to the late Matt Jefferies, the chief designer of the original series sets & props. And in case you're wondering: yes, that's Jefferies as in "Jefferies tubes"...
Oddly enough, the bonus disc lacks theatrical trailers, which makes it the only Special Collector's Edition Trek-flick DVD release so far to lack trailers. However, it makes for an interesting coincidence when you consider the fact that the initial DVD release didn't include any trailers, either. Well okay, it's not really all that interesting; I just wanted to show off my scary-talent of knowing all sortsa absolutely irrelevant and useless information...
- Best TNG Movie
Even though this is the best TNG movie, that isn't saying much. When Kirk left the Nexus, he should have gone to the Enterprise-B the moment he left the ship and kill Zoran. But nope, the legendary Kirk is killed off in a lame death scene. However, this movie does make you think about several key concepts. Because this TNG movie actually made me think, I give it 3 stars....more info
- Star Trek Generations
I was very, very impressed by this movie. It blends TOS and TNG together in a whirlwind of fantasy and science. The computer graphics were quite real, and I was very impressed on how they put Guinan and the other El-Aurians in the spotlight for once. These under-appreciated characters were definately a good add, as was the mystique of the Nexus. It was really neat how they brought back TOS to create 'Generations'. This is overall the best Star Trek movie yet, with the exception of Nemesis, for a long time.
I would reccomend this movie to anyone who likes either Captain Kirk or Picard. I cried my eyes out at the part where Kirk allegedly died, as it was a heroic act of courage. Later I read William Shatner's novel collection, Odyssey, and found a few more of the times James Kirk thwarted death, over and over again. Please see this movie-and enjoy it!...more info
- When will it be....
I am eagerly awaiting the release of this DVD and hope all the Next Gen movies come in Special Editions following the release of this one. I was dissappointed they moved the release date ahead but it could not be helped. Apparantly Paramount printed the DVD sleeve with several items/features that were not included in the DVD itself. Included was a trailer for something. I wish they would have shipped it as is. I bet that DVD woudl be worth something. Anyway acc to Paramount Home Ent there is no release date so we can only wait....more info
- Star Trek Generations (Special Collector's Edition)
I just finished a marathon of Star Trek with the purchases I just got from Amazon. I enjoyed it so much. I also purchased the following DVD's with this purchase:
Star Trek - The Original Crew Movie Collection (Special Edition)
Star Trek - First Contact (Special Collector's Edition)
Star Trek Generations (Special Collector's Edition)
- A middling adventure
Star Trek: Generations was filmed during one of the busiest years in Trek history. The Next Generation wrapped up its TV run, DS9 finished its second season and Voyager got underway all in the same year. It's a shame that Generations failed to live up to its full potential.
The plot and acting were substandard. Picard's melodrama over losing his brother seems forced at best, and Data's laughing at every little thing almost makes me wish he was offed in this film instead of Nemesis.
That all said, there are some good things about the film. The special effects were well done. The sound was good. The tradition of recycling decade-old sets continued nicely.
There are also a couple of interesting acting choices here. Tim Russ, who later went on to play Tuvok on Voyager, makes an appearance on the Enterprise-B as an unnamed lieutenant. Likewise, Jenette Goldstein also appears as an anonymous officer. Interesting factoid: Gene Roddenberry was very impressed with the character of Vasquez from the film Aliens, so impressed that he decided to use that character as a template for the Enterprise-D security chief when he was writing the pilot for The Next Generation. As a fan of both Aliens and Star Trek, I found Goldstein's inclusion in the cast, whether intentional or not, as a nice homage to recognizing Roddenberry's influences.
The special features, such as deleted scenes, are worth giving a once over if only to see how much worse the film could have been. Kirk gets shot in the back? What?
In previous Trek DVDs, I've enjoyed the text commentary provided by Michael and Denise Okuda. In this film, though, their text commentary overlaps the film in an LCARS panel. The text itself was informative enough, but I found the graphic to be too intrusive because it obscured a small part of the film. Previous Trek DVDs have had the Okudas' text commentary run below the actual film in letterbox format, which I found to be less intrusive into the film.
All in all, if you're a Trekkie, you may want to pick this up, if for no other reason than it's an interesting chapter in the franchise's history....more info
- Star Trek goes 'Blade Runner'. A stunning masterpiece.
It may be that I am in the very minority of people if I state that Star Trek Generations is far and away the best of the Next Gen films and one of the best of the overall series. I may be in the minority to talk about its philosophical themes that are all over the place in all the right places. It may be I'm the only person who sees this film as a philosophy piece like Blade Runner. But that's what I see it as. And though this film is definitely not as well-directed or well-made as the aforementioned Ridley Scott classic, the themes and astounding philosophical musings are very similar.
'Star Trek: Generations' deals with the themes of time, humanity, happiness, and obsession. The film revolves around a scientist of the name Dr. Tolian Soran (portrayed by Malcom McDowell of 'A Clockwork Orange') who was sucked into a time vortex called the Nexus many years ago. The Nexus manifests itself as the ultimate pinnacle of happiness and satisfaction for every individual who is pulled within it: whatever their greatest hopes, dreams, and desires are, they are manifested. Soran, whose wife and son were killed, was "with them" again when he was in the Nexus. Years after being removed from it, he goes on a murderous quest to reunite with it while being pursued by Picard and the classic Enterprise crew of ST:TNG.
Right before these events unfold and the Enterprise is thrust into pursuit of Soran, Picard is notified that his brother and nephew were killed in a fire. Picard, never married and never a father, loved his nephew like a son and is anguished over this. This anguish lasts till the end of the movie and is manifested and reflected on all during his chase of Soran. Meanwhile, the emotionless android Data is equipped with an experimental emotional chip after requesting it from his only true close friend, engineer Geordi LaForge. He experiences emotion, pain, and fear for the first time. The emotion-chip theme with Data is one that would continue for the entire ST:TNG film series right until the haunting finale of the criminally underrated 'Star Trek: Nemesis'.
The main theme the film deals with, as mentioned before, is time. Do we linger in the past, or do we learn from the past and move forward? Do we choose to "burn" in the "flames" of yesterday, or move beyond them and advance as human beings? Similarly, as was the main theme in 'Blade Runner', Data's emotion chip asks us the question of what defines humanity, whether it be our genetic makeup and appearance or our hopes, dreams, loves, and experiences.
Little more can be gone into without spoiling the film. While the direction is not perfect, the themes and story are the best of the ST:TNG film series and one of the best of the entire Trek series overall. With a director such as Stanley Kubrick or Ridley Scott this movie would probably be considered one of the greatest of all-time. Absolute masterpiece and a must-see for any and all fans of Star Trek and philosophical science fiction....more info
- Mr. Tricorder
The 7th movie of the Star Trek films is perhaps the worst movie of all. Now, some people might say that Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is the worst movie of the Trek movies. But, they're wrong.
The Enterprise-B is carrying three members of the aging "classic Trek" characters; Capt. Kirk, Scotty and Chekov. The Enterprise-B does a rescue on ships trapped in The Nexus. The Enterprise-B is badly damaged, and Kirk is presumed dead. But, Kirk is just living happily back at his house on Earth within the Nexus.
The story is the worst of the movies. The only thing that saved the moive--for me--is the subplot about Data's emotion chip. ...more info
- Finaly Trek in DTS sound!
This was The Next Genarations first movie outing,and I thought it could of been alot better.I dont hate the movie,but I think they did not need to include Kirk?I think the people who did this movie should of done there home work better.The scene that always buged me was the begining.And if you watched the TNG episode Relics then you should know what i'm talking about.Scotty was on The Enterprise B when Kirk got sucked in the Nexus.Yet in the TNG episode Relics when Scotty gets rescued by the TNG crew.Riker tells Scotty that he was Commander of The Enterprise and Scottys replied was "Kirk has come to rescue me?"Yet Kirk is supposed to be dead to Scotty.I also think it would of been nice to see Kirk aboard The Enterprise-D,I would of loved to have seen his reaction to Worf.A Klingon serving on The Enterprise!Leonard Nimoy was invited back to play Spock again and also to direct the film,I know Leonard read the script and he thought it was awful,he told Paramount he would do Genarations but he wanted a new screen play to be writen,Paramount said no,so Leonard walked away and refused to direct and star in Genarations,so Paramount wrote him out of the script.Well that's the story I heard.Well I never realy hated the movie,I did enjoy Data in the movie.The new DVD is going to feature for the first time for a Trek movie DTS sound.As well as some special features.This DVD will be alot better then the first version that hit DVD that did not have any special features not even a Theatical trailer.Well this DVD will be a treat for Trek fans and should tie people over until a First Contact Collectors DVD comes out....more info
- Reason for delayed release
Paramount was set to release it on September 7, but due to a printing error on the covers, pulled all the copies off the shelves to print new labels.
The error had to deal with the fact that the trailers were NOT going to be on the DVD but the labels said they did.
Rumor has it that not all DVD's were returned to Paramount and a few copies were sold to the general public with the first set of labels. I'm guessing you'll see these sold on eBay for lots of $$$ because of the error in printing....more info
- One good thing you can say is it's probably the best of the odd numbered
There's a universal rule when it comes down to Star Trek films: the best ones usually are the even ones. Many consider II(Wrath of Kahn), IV(Voyage Home) and (VI)Undiscovered Country. Well Generations is not only an odd-numbered but it's the first one to feature the Generations cast and also includes members of the original cast. It's got bad moments sure but it's also got great ones.
The Enterprise-B is about to go on its maiden voyage with Captain Kirk, Chekov and Scotty in tow. Really quickly they receive a distress call: 2 ships are caught in a weird energy ribbon. They do rescue half of the survivors but a part of the ship is damaged, the same section Kirk was in.
Flash-forward 80 years later and the Generations cast receives word that an Observatory near a star has been under attack. Found amongst the wreckage is Dr. Soran, one of the survivors from the ribbon mission. It seems he's on a plan to get inside the ribbon, which acts as a sort of heaven-like place where you're always happy. In order to do that, he destroys a couple stars which end up going supernova(science word for explode) and destroy several populated planets in the process. Helping out Captain Picard is an old legend.
Like I said, the film does have its good points. The nexus certainly looks cool(that one shot where Soran raises his hands as the ribbon is right in front of him is one of my favorite shots ever) and the stellar cartography scene is so cool and interesting. Unfortunately it's all got its lameness. The subplot involving Data's emotions is pure forced comic relief while the enemy race in the film isn't much of a threat. Plus there's what I call the seatbelt issue: they always get hit by photon torpedoes and beams and such and go flying and not decide, hmm...seatbelts?
In the end it's a Star Trek film that doesn't take place of the best ones but it's certainly good regardless.
- Entertaining Film With Flaws
I recently went back and watched Star Trek Generations on this special collector's edition. The film was a lot more entertaining that I had remembered but it is not without its flaws.
The movie was made to bring together the two captains and to kill off our beloved Captain Kirk. It opens with a fast paced and action packed sequence where Kirk is killed saving the newest Enterprise while on a short cruise. We are then introduced to the Next Generation through a fun but somewhat contrived holodeck scene. Picard receives disturbing news and makes him reflect on his life, Data experiments with an emotion chip and a madman is destroying stars for a selfish purpose.
When you add all of this together, we have a very entertaining and at times a visually stunning movie. The movie moves along at a brisk pace and we are never once bored. The special effects, especially the crash scene, are very good and the theme of time is very well done.
Despite being entertained, I found the movie to be very uneven. While I was amused at Data's trials of experiencing emotions, the subplot felt very out of place. The "echo" of Guinan seemed a little too convenient and when we get the two captains together, we just get a long fist fight. It made the entire "two captains, one destiny" concept feel a little empty.
The DVD transfer is very good. The colors were crisp and the picture quality was superior. The extras while plentiful were kind of bland. Most of the extras deal with the location of the planet where a 1/4 of the movie takes place and it just isn't very interesting. The crash segment was covered but it was much too limited to one part of the filming and not the entire sequence itself. And the deleted scenes are not interesting at all, mainly due to being VERY rough cuts.
I have actually increased my rating for Generations because it is entertaining and rates way above Star Trek V and the abysmal continuity killing Nemesis. It is a film that is more about time and how it stalks us and reminds us to seize the moment and on that level is succeeds.
- Boldly going where ST: TOS went before
Boldly going where "Star Trek-The Original Series" had gone before, "Generations" allows us to watch the passing of the torch. The Next Generation cast took the big screen but not center stage in the first feature of this television series. The real attraction here was the death of a beloved Trek icon-Captain James T. Kirk. As the film begins Captain James T. Kirk (William Shatner) along with former crewmates Scotty (James Doohan) and Checkov (Walter Koenig) are along on the ride for the launch of the newly commissioned Enterprise-B. When two ships signal that they need help, the Enterprise-B, despite the fact that it hasn't been outfitted with the rudimentary defense mechanisms, is ordered to help the two troubled passenger ships. New Captain John Harriman (Alan Ruck) reluctantly zooms to their aid. With news cameras from every network on Earth covering the launch of the ship, Kirk feels compelled to step in and help the inexperienced crew save the lives on the ships in distress. Unfortunately, Kirk appears to be killed in the process.
About 80 years later the crew of the USS Enterprise C is celebrating the promotion of Lt. Commander Worf on the holodeck, Captain Jean Luc-Picard receives some disturbing news during the celebration; his nephew, brother and sister-in-law have been killed in a fire. The celebration is cut short when the Enterprise is ordered to help a research station under fire from Romulans. As the ship arrives, they discover everyone on the research vessel dead except Dr. Tolian Soren (Malcolm McDowell). It turns out that he is the cause of the attack and he's develop a dangerous new weapon that can cause a sun to go nova within minutes. He plans on using it to somehow harness the power of something called the Nexus ribbon. It appears that people that enter this ribbon that travels through space can relive the past and visit with loved ones long dead. Picard must stop Soren or millions of innocent lives will be sacrificed in the process. Unfortunately, he fails and both he and Soren are sucked into the Nexus. While in there Picard meets a most unexpected ally Captain James T. Kirk who it appears is very much alive. Picard must convince Kirk to help him stop Soren as he's cut off from his ship and crew.
Although it was much maligned by the press when it was first released "Generations" has the stuff big screen space operas and good science fiction are made up; there's an ethical dilemma, an action packed script and some solid character development. What it doesn't have is the sense that it was designed for the big screen. Despite the bigger production values and epic scope of the initial action, the film feels like it could have been made during the series'seven year reign. There's also the lack of a larger than life villain. While McDowell is great in his role as the complex villain Soren, you get the feeling that Picard and Kirk could easily take him out. The ending haunted the film from the very beginning; the death scenes for Captain Kirk had to be reshot after the film was finished as it just didn't have the mythic quality the producers and fans wanted. The final ending doesn't either but it is more satisfying than the original ending (which is included on this special edition). "Generations" provides an entertaining two hour adventure and, while not the best Trek film from The Next Generation crew ("Star Trek: First Contact" holds that honor), it's a satisfying adventure.
I've not seen this much edge enhancement in some time. While the transfer captures the vivid colors of the ocean at the beginning and the desolate beauty of the desert at the end, the over use of edge enhancement (in the form of a shimmering effect) cripples this disc. It's not really noticeable on a small screen but on big screen TVs, the use of a Proxima Projector or on a HDTV, it's noticeable to the point that it's distracting. On the plus side, this "next generation" edition of the film is a marked improvement over the bare bones edition Paramount issued five years ago. The film receives a nice anamorphic transfer with a much crisper picture and better detail than on the previous DVD. The bright colors and solid blacks are rendered very nicely. The analog blemishes are few and it's clear that this has been struck from a new print.
On the plus side as well we're offered a terrific 5.1 channel Dolby Digital track as well as a DTS version of the soundtrack. There are also Dolby Digital 2.0 tracks available for both the English and French soundtracks as well. The sonic detail and a great dynamic range highlight the soundtrack. The clear dialogue, effects and music are distinct and have tremendous presence regardless of which version of the soundtrack you select.
With a second disc of extras, "Generations" is a marked improvement over the first edition. The first edition of the film didn't even have the theatrical trailer. Here we get "The Star Trek Universe", "Production", "Visual effects" and other featurettes focusing on the production of the movie. The production quality of the featurettes is more than a cut above the standard releases as well. We get interviews on set with cast and crew as well as behind-the-scenes footage of the production of the movie nicely edited with some neat graphics.
"Star Trek Universe is divided into the following segments; Production is divided into three sections; "A Tribute to Matt Jeffries" which is one of the best and most touching featurettes here. Jeffries was the original art director for the original series and continued on in various roles throughout the movies as well. "The Enterprise Lineage" discusses all the ships from the series "Enterprise" to the Enterprise-D launched in "Star Trek: First Contact". "Captain Picard's Family Album" and "Creating 24th Century Weapons" round out this particular section. Production focuses on the following areas; "Uniting Two Legends", "Stellar Cartography: Creating the Illusion" and "Strange New Worlds: The Valley of Fire". The first focuses on the brainstorming that went into uniting two different TV icons in the movie. The second featurette discusses the creation of the famous Stellar Cartography deck and is related to the challenges of creating believable optical effects for this sequence. The third and final featurette here focuses on the alien planet where the bulk of the second half of the film takes place. "Visual Effects" provides an inside look at the creation of the models and miniatures as well as the sequence where the Enterprise crashes into the surface of the alien planet.
Next we get "Scene Deconstruction" that allows us to glimpse the creation of the main title sequence. We see how the effect for the Nexus Ribbon is created and see how the illusion of the crash of the Enterprise was so convincingly portrayed. There's a number of deleted scenes included (most of them unfinished which is why they weren't integrated back into the film) including the "Orbital Skydiving" scene that was originally supposed to open the film. "Walking the Plank" provides a glimpse of a sequence that takes place during Worf's promotion ceremony that was trimmed for time reasons. The last two will be of particular interest to fans of the film and series. We see a more involved sequence depicting Christmas with The Picards. This involves Captain Picard's imaginary family and his experience in the Nexus and, for the grand finale, the alternate ending that only preview audiences saw. There's also the inclusion of deleted scenes, a photo gallery and a selection of production storyboards to compare to the finished film.
Writers Ron Moore and Brannon Braga provide the commentary track for the film. Since both wrote a number of the best TV episodes of "The Next Generation" and this film along with "First Contact", they're able to provide a unique and fascinating glimpse into the compromises involved in making a Trek film. From Paramount's direction that the film has to be understandable by anyone not familiar to "Star Trek" to issues with the fans reaction to the film, both writers give us a candid account of the production. This, along with Michael and Denise Okuda's precise and informative text commentary give an excellent insider's perspective on the making of this film.
Although "Star Trek Generations" couldn't possibly live up to the fan expectations for the film, it's still a solid outing in the franchise. If more risks had been taken with the screenplay and direction, perhaps this film could have been as good as "Star Trek: First Contact". Regardless, Paramount has put together a fine and comprehensive special edition here. My only complaint is the over use of edge enhancement that mars an otherwise fine transfer free of the analog blemishes that marred the "Star Trek V-Collector's Edition" from a couple of years ago.
- Captains, My Captains!
Serving as a bridge between the original cast of Star Trek's films and TOS and TNG's crew, "Star Trek: Generations" is a fun ride that lacks the sentimental punch most fans would hope for. It opens with a new crew aboard the Enterprise being greeted by some of the ship's more legendary crew members (Kirk, Chekov, and Scotty). When the incomplete ship receives a distress signal, captain and crew attempt a rescue. What results is the loss of Kirk.
Hurtle seventy-eight years into the future. We find Picard and company celebrating the promotion of Worf. During the event, Picard receives bad personal news but must fight through it in order to save another ship that's eerily in the same situation as the Enterprise found itself in over seventy years before.
The Enterprise sends an away team to investigate, and they uncover Dr. Soran (Malcolm McDowell). While still investigating the vessel, Soran demands to return to the ship in order to finish an experiment that is extremely time sensitive.
Soon enough, the Enterprise finds itself attempting to stop the destruction of a planet as a madman tries to catch a ride on the Nexus, a place of pure joy and tranquility for any who are caught up in it.
Can Picard, Riker, and the rest of the Enterprise crew save the day? Perhaps an old hero from the past can give them a hand? All the answers lie within "Star Trek: Generations."
Albeit a somewhat hokey plot, Soran's quest to find ecstasy in the Nexus plays out very well on the screen. Subplots involving the personal loss of Picard and Data's humorous experiences with an emotion chip were also very entertaining. Where the film really struggles, in my opinion, is the installation of the TOS crew into the story. I personally feel that TOS crew got a perfect farewell in "Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country" and wish that they had been left alone after that film. Dragging out the "old guys" one more time made "Generations" feel sort of cheap. It's almost as if writers Ronald D. Moore and Brannon Braga (with story help from Rick Berman) didn't feel that the TNG crew could man a film on their own and needed an "icon" in Kirk to help boost the film overall.
Despite its weaknesses, "Generations" is a decent entry in the Trek universe. The DVD itself is very good, and includes a number of wonderful extras. My personal favorites are the "Crashing the Enterprise" segment and the brilliant look into the "Enterprise Lineage" that includes glimpses at the real Enterprise through the ages.
Recommended to fans of Star Trek and anyone who enjoys a good space opera littered with action, suspense and Kirk kicking butt one last time....more info
- Surprisingly satisfying.
This may not be the best Star Trek film, but, having just watched it again after some-odd years, I found it to be mostly quite enjoyable. It's maligned reputation did make me keep an eye out for "faults." While I found things that were less than, shall I say, stellar, I was pleased with how much of it I actually liked.
The acting, in general, is effective to good. It is true that not very many of the actors actually get a chance to act, but the ones that do (Picard, Data, Kirk, Soren) are good at what they are asked to do. Patrick Stewart is certainly up to the task. I did like Malcolm MacDowell's personality as the villian. He isn't a caricature of evil for evil's sake; rather, there is a psychology at work in him. If we never really get in depth with it, well, we can still see it on Soren's face.
I liked the use of the Klingons. It's nice and familiar to use the Duras sisters, and it also completes their stories. Their glee at the prospect of destroying the Enterprise is perfect considering the history. The space battle itself is highly effective, but I will have to say that one of the weaknesses was the arbitrary destruction of the saucer section of the Enterprise.
The plot with the Nexus, while certainly unlikely at parts, is at least an interesting idea. The threat created by Soren's explosives is a palpable one that warrants the attention of the Enterprise. Just as palpable is Picard's personal loss, which is effecive for those of us who remember the episode "Family" as one of the best.
I don't really care for Data's storyline. His appeal has always been his struggle to understand aspects of humanity, particularly emotions. The chip seems a shortcut, the script turns him into a punchline, and all of a sudden I see Brent Spiner the broadway singer singing "Lifeforms" instead of Data. His "Oh, s--t!", "YESSSSSS!" and "I get it!" one-liners are all regrettable. It's only slightly placating that Geordi seems as annoyed as I was.
Sometimes I hear that viewers wish that more of the primary cast were given something to do. I would say that, both on TV and on film, that no cast has ever been given complete consideration in a single plotline, at least very rarely. How much attention did Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, and Chekhov really get in the first 6 films? Overall, very little compared with the big three. Well, ST:TNG is truly the Patrick Stewart/Brint Spiner show. Anyone who hasn't figured that out hasn't been paying attention. I don't see anything wrong with this film being particularly Picard's story.
Actually, it's also Kirk's story, isn't it. I am not really an obsessed sort of Trekkie, but I love historical relevance. I think the original cast has stood the test of time and deserves a lot of respect. I love the opening montage. Plotwise, I don't miss Spock, McCoy, Uhura, and Sulu. It seems reasonable to me that the entire crew wouldn't necessarily be available for this little jaunt. Kirk, Chekhov, and Scotty are great together.
Shatner gets less credit than he deserves as an actor, but watch his restlessness on the bridge while things are going to hell, and then watch how relaxed yet alert Kirk is in when he takes command. Perfect. His scenes with Stewart are quite good, suffering only from some repetitive writing. And it is a distinction of their characters that the kinetic Kirk beats up Soren after the philosophical Picard is pugilised.
This movie may not be for the jaundiced. Heck, probably none of Star Trek is. It may not be the most powerful, cohesive, or logical ST movie produced. It certanly doesn't look the best. But, while it may not advance the ST universe in any significant way, it has much that is worthy for entertainment.
- New release date set by Paramount!
According to Paramount's official Star Trek website (www.startrek.com), the new release date is September 28, 2004. For the record, this is the same release date for Voyager's fourth season....more info
- Another botched release
Paramount screwed up the Star Trek VI SE a few months ago and it looks like they've done the same again. The last movie came out in a white (!?) double-amaray keepcase, had upside-down pictures on the disc and came with no insert. A particular pet peeve of mine, especially irritating considering the 5 other Star Trek SEs came with large inserts.
This release claims to have trailers on disc 2 but there ain't and there is, once again, no insert. Some Special Edition huh? The DVD has since been recalled and delayed for a little while but I got mines' already.
For what it's worth (I got mine cheap) it's still quite good. I had never seen Generations before and had read only lukewarm reviews but I actually enjoyed it a lot, more so than the awful Insurrection. There's plenty of action and a cool story that may seem hokey but works as a great device for character development, set pieces and SFX.
Jerry Goldsmith didn't score this one but the total unknown (Dennis McCarthy???) who did is competent enough, as is the director, who I have never heard of either (David Carson???) but he's better than Jonathan Frakes, who's direction in First Contact and Insurrection was too neutral and flat. There is a lot more urgency and excitement in the action scenes in this film than I was used to.
Plus it was very cool to see Captain Kirk and Captain Picard working together. Still I would have liked even tiny cameos by Spock or Bones. There is a nice reference to Spock however.
The DVD looks and sounds fanschmabulous. Filmed in Panavision, the 2.35:1 anamorphic picture is superb and the Dolby/DTS 5.1 soundtracks totally rock the living room. Loads of extras (minus trailers) are featured on disc 2....more info
- Why'd it get pulled?
I was looking forward to adding this to my collection of other Special Edition Trek films, but suddenly it was pulled.
The only reason to purchase this is for the extras, the film itself is horrid. This outing is filled with schlock that looks like it was thrown together at the last minute...mismatched uniforms, re-using the same footage from The Undiscovered Country, Kirk's lame death scene. Data, of course, ruins the film with his hammy acting...thanks to an "emotion" chip. Still beating a dead horse I see!...more info
- Recalled, but Amazon shipped to me
I will not talk about the film, everybody knows it.
The review is about the "what's in the box"....
Days ago I got an email from Amazon saying they were sorry but could not deliver the DVD on the promised date, bla bla. 2 days later, I got another email saying they shipped it.
Yeah, I've got it and it has the same image quality as the previous release (1 disc). It is missing the foil with the chapter guide (you can use the one from the other edition).
Although the movie is 10 years old and was filmed on normal equipment, it does show some age on the image quality. Paramount should have cleaned it before the new release.
The menu is new, animated with the Enterprise B on the first disk. It has some extras on the second disk, like deleted scenes, alternative ending (Kirk's death) which I found interesting to watch. It has some features also on the special effects, like the crash sequence and filming the Enterprise - most of it was not CGI.
Besides the missing trailers - it is mentioned on the cover, but not available on either disks, one good suprise was to find that this version has also Dolby DTS track.
Overall, it is worthwhile, for the extras and DTS. And it costed much less than the first version.
Nevertheless, Paramount deserves a negative feedback for taking advantage of us for using such strategy: release barebones first and special editions later: this is pissing a lot of customers, specially the ones that bought the Original Series for much higher cost in many volumes. Paramount must learn with the other studios on how to master and pack DVDs - Warner, FOX and MGM are normally much better....more info
- Answer to the Release Date Question
While I did not think that this was anywhere near the best Trek film out there (actually it ranks near the bottom for me), I would like to get the DVD for the extras, but was miffed to discover a push back of the release date, all for a typo on the packaging.
That's right: startrek.com says there packaging listed two trailers that were not on the discs and that's why they pulled it. They list the revised release date as Sept 28th of this year.
As for why I didn't care much for the film: it took continuity and basically chucked it out the window. In this film, Scotty saw Kirk die at the Nexus, yet just 2 years earlier, in one of the episodes, Scotty was brought out of transporter hibernation after 78 years, completely unaware of Kirk's death. Also the Klingon sisters should not have been able to so clearly seen through Geordi's VISOR; a first season episode established, that his VISOR showed him a full optic spectrum that looked like a jumble of colors to someone not used to looking through it. I also didn't feel Data's motivation for finally wanting his emotion chip was strong enough--they made far too much of his pushing Dr. Crusher overboard; it *was* funny.
I also believe that they could have come up with a better storyline, one that could better involve both crews, one that would have kept if from my dubbing it "The Captains and Data", one that actors such as Leonard Nimoy and George Takei would have welcomed the chance to appear in, instead of turning it down as they did.
Perhaps if they had not been in such a rush to start the film as soon as production of the series wrapped, they might have come up with a better film.
Alas the extras should prove to be worthwhile. I'm particularly looking forward to the much talked about (since the movie first came out 10 years ago) deleted skydiving scene, which, as I understand, was supposed to open the movie....more info