Wireless home security cameras
 

I've done a search in this forum and alt.home.automation to educate
myself about security cameras for my home. I've read the cons about
wireless. I live on 20 acres in a 100 yo cedar forest. My nearest
neighbors are .1 mile away thru the trees. Two new neighbors have
teenage boys. I don't lock the house because I have expense windows. I
do want to rd anyone coming into the house uninvited for any
reason. I don't want to have outside cameras.
Question 1: Could I get away with using wireless?
Question 2: How can I insure that the cameras will rd enough
before they are terminated by physical damage or power loss?
Question 3: Should I use stealth or make it obvious?
Question 4: Are cheap cameras any good? If so, which one(s)?
Question 5: I couldn't find any good websites that have unbias
information about home security. Are there any outside this forum?

- -a...@captura.com (AlanB) wrote in message <news:1755335f.0407062106.6dc89c07@posting.google.com>...
> I've done a search in this forum and alt.home.automation to educate
> myself about security cameras for my home. I've read the cons about
> wireless. I live on 20 acres in a 100 yo cedar forest. My nearest
> neighbors are .1 mile away thru the trees. Two new neighbors have
> teenage boys. I don't lock the house because I have expense windows. I
> do want to rd anyone coming into the house uninvited for any
> reason. I don't want to have outside cameras.
> Question 1: Could I get away with using wireless?
> Question 2: How can I insure that the cameras will rd enough
> before they are terminated by physical damage or power loss?
> Question 3: Should I use stealth or make it obvious?
> Question 4: Are cheap cameras any good? If so, which one(s)?
> Question 5: I couldn't find any good websites that have unbias
> information about home security. Are there any outside this forum?

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I have also researched the use of security cameras for my house and
property.  In my research I have found that if it's not worth going
with an inexpensive sytem. So I have posted below the answer to your
questions based on my opinion.
Answer 1: Wired systems are very costly and difficult to install,
however they are the most reliable.  Since the inovation of wireless
technology, I have seen wireless products become increasingly more
reliable and cost effective.  To sum it all up, I have chosen to use
wireless, and would mend it to anyone.  It is easy to sep up, and
is very easy to install.
Answer 2: The wireless sytems I am referring to require the use of a
Transiever, and a home computer.  The wireless cameras have a motion
sensor that will activate rding on your home PC.  So if you are to
ensure rding regardless of power loss, then I would suggest
investing in a UPS (Universal Power Supply).  A UPS is basically a
battery back up system that will supply uninterupted power suppy if
the main power is down.  As far as Physical damage...see the answer to
the next question.
Answer 3: It is most peoples opinions in home security, that the
obvious approch is the best.  They believe that making the security
system obvious to the intruders, is the best deterent.  In other
words, as soon as they see the cameras, they are most likely to leave
instead of destroying the cameras.  However, you could always position
one camera out in the open, while concealing a second camera just
incase.
Answer 4:  Cheap is cheap! Why trust you most valuable to a cheap
alternative just to save a few bucks.  Think of it as an investment
that you know will pay off.
Answer 5: It is difficult to find unbiased sites.  Most of them are
going to push one type of product or another.  So I can't help you
there, except to just reasearch the individual products and try to get
consumer feedback once you find a good product.
Summary:
I have chosen to go with a computer based wireless camera system.  The
following are the components that are required along with a link to
the site where you can get detailed info.
1. One WAP (Wireless Access Point) these range in price from $50 to
$300
2. One Home Computer (Price varies)
3. Wireless Cameras.  These vary in price from $220 - $350
There are two leaders for this type of camera.  Linksys and D-Link, I
would suggest reaserching both and going with wich ever one best fits
you needs.  You can however intermix them.  Since the wireless
standard they both use is universal, you can actually have a mix of
both.
Some Key features and benefits of Wireless:
* Provides High Quality Live Video
* East to Install Cameras (Can have up to 200 on one network)
* Can place camera up to 400 ft from WAP (Barring any obstructions)
* Can remotly access and monitor your home from any where in the world
(requires Internet connection)
* Automatically notifies you via email when the cameras are
activated.(Some cell phones can eve email)
* All video is saved and archive on your computer for future viewing.

oldcrow   Jul 9 2004, 7:14 am     Newsgroups: comp.home.automation "oldcrow" <oldc...@access.inet.co.th> - Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:14:22 +0700 Local: Fri,Jul 9 2004 7:14 am Subject: Re: Wireless home security cameras Reply to Author Forward Print comp.home.automationc8cbf58dcd783b5c" Individual Message Show original Please advise more on this alt.home.automation - Is this a newsgroup?
- -"AlanB" <a...@captura.com> wrote in message
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> I've done a search in this forum and alt.home.automation to educate
> myself about security cameras for my home. I've read the cons about
> wireless. I live on 20 acres in a 100 yo cedar forest. My nearest
> neighbors are .1 mile away thru the trees. Two new neighbors have
> teenage boys. I don't lock the house because I have expense windows. I
> do want to rd anyone coming into the house uninvited for any
> reason. I don't want to have outside cameras.
> Question 1: Could I get away with using wireless?
> Question 2: How can I insure that the cameras will rd enough
> before they are terminated by physical damage or power loss?
> Question 3: Should I use stealth or make it obvious?
> Question 4: Are cheap cameras any good? If so, which one(s)?
> Question 5: I couldn't find any good websites that have unbias
> information about home security. Are there any outside this forum?


L. M. Rappaport   Jul 11 2004, 7:13 am     Newsgroups: comp.home.automation L. M. Rappaport <nos...@invalid.org> - Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:13:19 GMT Local: Sun,Jul 11 2004 7:13 am Subject: Re: Wireless home security cameras Reply to Author Forward Print comp.home.automationf9b72927bf8fb1e7" Individual Message Show original On 6 Jul 2004 22:06:51 -0700, a...@captura.com (AlanB) wrote (with
possible editing):
>I've done a search in this forum and alt.home.automation to educate
>myself about security cameras for my home. I've read the cons about
>wireless. I live on 20 acres in a 100 yo cedar forest. My nearest
>neighbors are .1 mile away thru the trees. Two new neighbors have
>teenage boys. I don't lock the house because I have expense windows. I
>do want to rd anyone coming into the house uninvited for any
>reason. I don't want to have outside cameras.

You don't mention your climate which is important, particularly up
north.
>Question 1: Could I get away with using wireless?

You could "get away" with it, but if you live in a northern climate,
you will almost certainly need to place the cameras in weatherproof
housings.  The best are metal and use fans and heaters.  The ones I'm
familiar with will not work with
wireless.
>Question 2: How can I insure that the cameras will rd enough
>before they are terminated by physical damage or power loss?

Again, this depends upon many things:
        1.  Do they pan, tilt, and zoom?
        2.  If they are PTZ, can they be pre-programmed?
        3.  Are they activated by external motion sensors?
Usually, the best technique is to place them high where they will are
less likely to suffer damage before being vandalized.  This protects
from simple vandalism, but does nothing to protect them against a .22
rifle.
>Question 3: Should I use stealth or make it obvious?

That depends completely on your location.  You should consult a
professional.
>Question 4: Are cheap cameras any good? If so, which one(s)?

I've never found any, but that doesn't mean there aren't any.  You
need the ability to work in low light, autofocus, high or reasonably
high resolution.  I use PTZ cameras and outdoor motion sensors.  My
preference is Pelco Spectra III's, but they are quite pricey.  
>Question 5: I couldn't find any good websites that have unbias
>information about home security. Are there any outside this forum?
I

 don't know.  I haven't found any.  Many folks who have done
commercial work of this type are quite reluctant to provide the
results of tests for obvious reasons.
--
Larry
r...@lmr.com

AlanB   Jul 13 2004, 2:51 pm     Newsgroups: comp.home.automation a...@captura.com (AlanB) - 13 Jul 2004 14:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Wireless home security cameras Reply to Author Forward Print comp.home.automationeb46fac8b2d4c6f2" Individual Message Show original Thanks for the above information. It was useful and helps to confirm
my thoughts on the questions.
I live in a moderate climate (Puget Sound area of Washington).
I'm going to place an outside dummy camera that is motion activated to
help deter possible intruders. On the inside I'm going with wireless
covert cameras that are motion activated and rd to a Geovision
equipped PC with a UPS.
This way I can turn on the covert cameras when I leave the house and
turn them off when I come home.
I also have a wired home security system that I never turn on because
I don't lock my doors. I don't want my Pella windows broken but I do
want to digitally rd anyone who has not been invited into my
house.
- -a...@captura.com (AlanB) wrote in message <news:1755335f.0407062106.6dc89c07@posting.google.com>...
> I've done a search in this forum and alt.home.automation to educate
> myself about security cameras for my home. I've read the cons about
> wireless. I live on 20 acres in a 100 yo cedar forest. My nearest
> neighbors are .1 mile away thru the trees. Two new neighbors have
> teenage boys. I don't lock the house because I have expense windows. I
> do want to rd anyone coming into the house uninvited for any
> reason. I don't want to have outside cameras.
> Question 1: Could I get away with using wireless?
> Question 2: How can I insure that the cameras will rd enough
> before they are terminated by physical damage or power loss?
> Question 3: Should I use stealth or make it obvious?
> Question 4: Are cheap cameras any good? If so, which one(s)?
> Question 5: I couldn't find any good websites that have unbias
> information about home security. Are there any outside this forum?

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