Reporter looking for fake ink horror story
 

Hi,
I am a reporter seeking to find inkjet and/or toner customers that
inadvertently purchased counterfeit name-brand ink. Have you or do you
know someone that has?
Do you have a story to tell?
Please contact me via my Yahoo email address which I use so I don't
get bombarded with spam.
Thanks all...
- peter
zpr...@yahoo.com

It was a dark and stormy night... I sat at my computer, working
feverishly at image manipulation, when suddenly, from the diion of
my printer, came a blood curdling scream!
What? Oh, not THAT kind of horror story?
:O)
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Jordan Bortz   May 20 2003, 1:48 pm     photo.digital "Jordan Bortz" <jordanbo...@hotmail.com> - Tue, 20 May 2003 20:48:28 GMT Local: Tues,May 20 2003 1:48 pm Subject: Re: Reporter looking for fake ink horror story Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digital53392b76c13f2e8c" Individual Message Show original I think he's looking for a Jayson Blair kind of story...
Or maybe Ellen Fleiss. I was printing and then "woop boob bloop" Epson ate
my homework..
Jordan
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"Paul Heslop" <paul.hes...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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- -> It was a dark and stormy night... I sat at my computer, working
> feverishly at image manipulation, when suddenly, from the diion of
> my printer, came a blood curdling scream!
> What? Oh, not THAT kind of horror story?
> :O)
> --
>  Paul. (why don't you call me I feel like flying in two)
>  ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --
>  Not what it seems...
>  http://www.geocities.com/dream st8me/


Gene Palmiter   May 20 2003, 1:58 pm     photo.digital "Gene Palmiter" <palmi...@bellatlanic.net> - Tue, 20 May 2003 20:58:45 GMT Local: Tues,May 20 2003 1:58 pm Subject: Oh Puhleeeze!! Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digital3cf8ade4c4d74fc3" Individual Message Show original As a media person myself...I hope you have luck  and all...but I will be
interested to see how this conversation works.
Now...do you usualy know the end of the investigation before you start? You
seem to know that there are horror stories about fake ink...Ok...I suppose
you have to start somewhere.
But, how about the other side...family's who save up for a printer and then
find that Johnny cant print because they can't afford brand ink...that comes
with a microchip so that only that brand will work in the printer.
"reporter" <zpr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:32880179.0305201040.39f4dfef@posting.google.com...
- -> Hi,
> I am a reporter seeking to find inkjet and/or toner customers that
> inadvertently purchased counterfeit name-brand ink. Have you or do you
> know someone that has?
> Do you have a story to tell?
> Please contact me via my Yahoo email address which I use so I don't
> get bombarded with spam.
> Thanks all...
> - peter
> zpr...@yahoo.com


Jordan Bortz   May 20 2003, 2:18 pm     photo.digital "Jordan Bortz" <jordanbo...@hotmail.com> - Tue, 20 May 2003 21:18:24 GMT Local: Tues,May 20 2003 2:18 pm Subject: Re: Oh Puhleeeze!! Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digital11cf8084186ff635" Individual Message Show original > But, how about the other side...family's who save up for a printer and
then
> find that Johnny cant print because they can't afford brand ink...that
comes
> with a microchip so that only that brand will work in the printer.

Maybe he's a PR rep for Epson?
Jordan
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"Gene Palmiter" <palmi...@bellatlanic.net> wrote in message

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- -> As a media person myself...I hope you have luck  and all...but I will be
> interested to see how this conversation works.
> Now...do you usualy know the end of the investigation before you start?
You
> seem to know that there are horror stories about fake ink...Ok...I suppose
> you have to start somewhere.
> But, how about the other side...family's who save up for a printer and
then
> find that Johnny cant print because they can't afford brand ink...that
comes
> with a microchip so that only that brand will work in the printer.
> "reporter" <zpr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32880179.0305201040.39f4dfef@posting.google.com...
> > Hi,
> > I am a reporter seeking to find inkjet and/or toner customers that
> > inadvertently purchased counterfeit name-brand ink. Have you or do you
> > know someone that has?
> > Do you have a story to tell?
> > Please contact me via my Yahoo email address which I use so I don't
> > get bombarded with spam.
> > Thanks all...
> > - peter
> > zpr...@yahoo.com


Tony Spadaro   May 20 2003, 4:36 pm     photo.digital "Tony Spadaro" <tspad...@ncmaps.rr.com> - Tue, 20 May 2003 23:36:20 GMT Local: Tues,May 20 2003 4:36 pm Subject: Re: Reporter looking for fake ink horror story Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digital95bafb7648d493dd" Individual Message Show original    Just check out the movie "The Blob" or "Beware of the Blob".
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- -"reporter" <zpr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:32880179.0305201040.39f4dfef@posting.google.com...
> Hi,
> I am a reporter seeking to find inkjet and/or toner customers that
> inadvertently purchased counterfeit name-brand ink. Have you or do you
> know someone that has?
> Do you have a story to tell?
> Please contact me via my Yahoo email address which I use so I don't
> get bombarded with spam.
> Thanks all...
> - peter
> zpr...@yahoo.com


Paul Heslop   May 20 2003, 5:29 pm     photo.digital Paul Heslop <paul.hes...@blueyonder.co.uk> - Wed, 21 May 2003 00:29:17 GMT Local: Tues,May 20 2003 5:29 pm Subject: Re: Reporter looking for fake ink horror story Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digital12f318fb69c77d58" Individual Message Show original Jordan Bortz wrote:
> I think he's looking for a Jayson Blair kind of story...
> Or maybe Ellen Fleiss. I was printing and then "woop boob bloop" Epson ate
> my homework..
> Jordan

:
O)
--
 Paul. (why don't you call me I feel like flying in two)
 ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --
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 http://www.geocities.com/dream st8me

/

reporter   May 21 2003, 7:44 am     photo.digital zpr...@yahoo.com (reporter) - 21 May 2003 07:44:25 -0700 Local: Wed,May 21 2003 7:44 am Subject: Re: Reporter looking for fake ink horror story Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digital31016b4a82031dda" Individual Message Show original Hey -
I'm not making this stuff up bud.
Check this out:
www.emedia.com.my/TECH/BizComp /SpecialReport/
20030404094228/pp_index_html
Counterfeit ink cartridges on the rise
By Matthew Mok
NEW inkjet printers are currently priced more affordably as vendors
subsidise their hardware, but to up back their investment, they
bank on rring revenues from the sales of ink cartridges.
However, non-original ink cartridges (compatibles, counterfeits) that
are generally cheaper are steadily eating into the pie, so much so
that printer vendors are launching anti-counterfeit ink cartridge
measures to educate users the benefits of using original ones.
According to Melissa Chong, analyst at IDC Malaysia, preliminary
results from IDC?s Quarterly Printer Consumables Tracker show
total Malaysian ink consumables market in 2002 grew by 6.6 per cent
over the previous year to reach 4.9 million units (see pie chart). In
2001, ink counterfeits represented only 13.3 per cent of total ink
market, but in 2002, they have grown to 16.6 per cent ? an
increase of 3.4 percentage point, says Chong. The only other form
factor that increased in percentage point is compatibles, by 0.3
percentage point.
In the laser consumables space, preliminary results indicate at least
double-digit growth in 2002 from previous year, to touch 680,000
units. Original toner shipments make up 58.3 per cent of total laser
toner unit shipments last year. The remaining is broken down by 19.9
per cent compatibles, 15.5 per cent counterfeits, and 6.2 per cent
parallel imports, Chong adds.
While consumers may perceive that they get immediate savings by using
non-original ink cartridges, original consumables are said to be more
cost-effective and offer consistent high reliability in the long run.
Epson Trading (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd?s managing dior Chin Chee
Wing says counterfeit and compatible consumables have been known to
cause various problems in printers.
?Such counterfeit consumables can cause damage to the printer,
resulting in ink clogging and leakages,? Chin stresses.
Furthermore, they produce inferior prints with distorted text and dull
colours; ink wastage due to seepage from cartridge; poor resistance to
light and water exposure; and reduced number of printed copies,?
he says.
However counterfeit ink problems seemed more severe in Canon printers.
(as Canon is number one in the local inkjet market) About 20 to 25 per
cent of printers sent back to Canon Malaysia?s repair centres
locally experienced blocked print heads, due to the use of counterfeit
inks, says Liew Sip Chon, Canon Malaysia?s senior dior of
consumer imaging and information group.
Canon Malaysia will soon make available several anti-counterfeit ink
cartridge detectors to allow users to determine the genuinity of the
ink cartridges they are purchasing.
The detectors can be obtained from its dealers, and are used to
compare several details on the packaging of ink cartridges, such as
whether the lines are straight or the colours are in cor hues.
In addition, Canon has an intellectual property department in Beijing,
China that works closely with governments in the region to conduct
raids to nab trade pirates.
Meanwhile, Hewlett-Packard has introduced a new security label on its
ink and toner packages to help users differentiate original cartridges
from fake. One of the key features on the new label is colour-shifting
ink, which has the colour of the logo turning from green to dark blue
when the view angle is changed. This area should have a glossy
appearance and sparkles when viewed from certain angles.
Another security element on HP consumables is the thermal-chromic
security thread. A heat-sensitive strip runs vertically through the
ink security seal, and horizontally across the toner security seal.
This thermal-chromatic thread is woven through the paper, and is
printed with blue heat-sensitive ink. When rubbed vigorously with a
finger, the heat-sensitive ink fades on the strip, and the phrase
?HP Invent? appears. The ink will return to its original
blue colour once the heat source is removed.
For Lexmark, the impact of counterfeit ink cartridges impacting the
sales of its original ones is minimal, says David Kok, general manager
for Malaysia, Lexmark Asia-Pacific Corporation Inc. Nevertheless, the
company intends to nip the problem in the bud by introducing hologram
stickers on the packaging of its ink cartridges.
?We have hologram security stickers so that dealers and
consumers alike can be sure of selling and buying original
consumables,? Kok claims, adding Lexmark locally does not
conduct any raids, but does so in countries like China and Hong Kong,
where the threat is more serious.
- -"Tony Spadaro" <tspad...@ncmaps.rr.com> wrote in message <news:UZyya.70383$5M.4800885@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
> Just check out the movie "The Blob" or "Beware of the Blob".
> --
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> home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
> The Improved Links Pages are at
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> "reporter" <zpr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32880179.0305201040.39f4dfef@posting.google.com...
> > Hi,
> > I am a reporter seeking to find inkjet and/or toner customers that
> > inadvertently purchased counterfeit name-brand ink. Have you or do you
> > know someone that has?
> > Do you have a story to tell?
> > Please contact me via my Yahoo email address which I use so I don't
> > get bombarded with spam.
> > Thanks all...
> > - peter
> > zpr...@yahoo.com


Tony Spadaro   May 21 2003, 10:35 am     photo.digital "Tony Spadaro" <tspad...@ncmaps.rr.com> - Wed, 21 May 2003 17:35:33 GMT Local: Wed,May 21 2003 10:35 am Subject: Re: Reporter looking for fake ink horror story Reply to Author Forward Print photo.digitald4513e5ca34578fb" Individual Message Show original   Neither am I. "The Blob" is available on VHS.
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"reporter" <zpr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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- -> Hey -
> I'm not making this stuff up bud.
> Check this out:
> www.emedia.com.my/TECH/BizComp /SpecialReport/
> 20030404094228/pp_index_html
> Counterfeit ink cartridges on the rise
> By Matthew Mok
> NEW inkjet printers are currently priced more affordably as vendors
> subsidise their hardware, but to up back their investment, they
> bank on rring revenues from the sales of ink cartridges.
> However, non-original ink cartridges (compatibles, counterfeits) that
> are generally cheaper are steadily eating into the pie, so much so
> that printer vendors are launching anti-counterfeit ink cartridge
> measures to educate users the benefits of using original ones.
> According to Melissa Chong, analyst at IDC Malaysia, preliminary
> results from IDC&#8217;s Quarterly Printer Consumables Tracker show
> total Malaysian ink consumables market in 2002 grew by 6.6 per cent
> over the previous year to reach 4.9 million units (see pie chart). In
> 2001, ink counterfeits represented only 13.3 per cent of total ink
> market, but in 2002, they have grown to 16.6 per cent &#8211; an
> increase of 3.4 percentage point, says Chong. The only other form
> factor that increased in percentage point is compatibles, by 0.3
> percentage point.
> In the laser consumables space, preliminary results indicate at least
> double-digit growth in 2002 from previous year, to touch 680,000
> units. Original toner shipments make up 58.3 per cent of total laser
> toner unit shipments last year. The remaining is broken down by 19.9
> per cent compatibles, 15.5 per cent counterfeits, and 6.2 per cent
> parallel imports, Chong adds.
> While consumers may perceive that they get immediate savings by using
> non-original ink cartridges, original consumables are said to be more
> cost-effective and offer consistent high reliability in the long run.
> Epson Trading (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd&#8217;s managing dior Chin Chee
> Wing says counterfeit and compatible consumables have been known to
> cause various problems in printers.
> &#8220;Such counterfeit consumables can cause damage to the printer,
> resulting in ink clogging and leakages,&#8221; Chin stresses.
> Furthermore, they produce inferior prints with distorted text and dull
> colours; ink wastage due to seepage from cartridge; poor resistance to
> light and water exposure; and reduced number of printed copies,&#8221;
> he says.
> However counterfeit ink problems seemed more severe in Canon printers.
> (as Canon is number one in the local inkjet market) About 20 to 25 per
> cent of printers sent back to Canon Malaysia&#8217;s repair centres
> locally experienced blocked print heads, due to the use of counterfeit
> inks, says Liew Sip Chon, Canon Malaysia&#8217;s senior dior of
> consumer imaging and information group.
> Canon Malaysia will soon make available several anti-counterfeit ink
> cartridge detectors to allow users to determine the genuinity of the
> ink cartridges they are purchasing.
> The detectors can be obtained from its dealers, and are used to
> compare several details on the packaging of ink cartridges, such as
> whether the lines are straight or the colours are in cor hues.
> In addition, Canon has an intellectual property department in Beijing,
> China that works closely with governments in the region to conduct
> raids to nab trade pirates.
> Meanwhile, Hewlett-Packard has introduced a new security label on its
> ink and toner packages to help users differentiate original cartridges
> from fake. One of the key features on the new label is colour-shifting
> ink, which has the colour of the logo turning from green to dark blue
> when the view angle is changed. This area should have a glossy
> appearance and sparkles when viewed from certain angles.
> Another security element on HP consumables is the thermal-chromic
> security thread. A heat-sensitive strip runs vertically through the
> ink security seal, and horizontally across the toner security seal.
> This thermal-chromatic thread is woven through the paper, and is
> printed with blue heat-sensitive ink. When rubbed vigorously with a
> finger, the heat-sensitive ink fades on the strip, and the phrase
> &#8220;HP Invent&#8221; appears. The ink will return to its original
> blue colour once the heat source is removed.
> For Lexmark, the impact of counterfeit ink cartridges impacting the
> sales of its original ones is minimal, says David Kok, general manager
> for Malaysia, Lexmark Asia-Pacific Corporation Inc. Nevertheless, the
> company intends to nip the problem in the bud by introducing hologram
> stickers on the packaging of its ink cartridges.
> &#8220;We have hologram security stickers so that dealers and
> consumers alike can be sure of selling and buying original
> consumables,&#8221; Kok claims, adding Lexmark locally does not
> conduct any raids, but does so in countries like China and Hong Kong,
> where the threat is more serious.
> "Tony Spadaro" <tspad...@ncmaps.rr.com> wrote in message
<news:UZyya.70383$5M.4800885@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
> > Just check out the movie "The Blob" or "Beware of the Blob".
> > --
> > http://www.chapelhillnoir.com
> > home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
> > The Improved Links Pages are at
> > http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/ links/mlinks00.html
> > "reporter" <zpr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:32880179.0305201040.39f4dfef@posting.google.com...
> > > Hi,
> > > I am a reporter seeking to find inkjet and/or toner customers that
> > > inadvertently purchased counterfeit name-brand ink. Have you or do you
> > > know someone that has?
> > > Do you have a story to tell?
> > > Please contact me via my Yahoo email address which I use so I don't
> > > get bombarded with spam.
> > > Thanks all...
> > > - peter
> > > zpr...@yahoo.com

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