Need some security camera advice
 

Hello Group
I have a Omni pro II and a CorAccess 10" touch screen that I bought from
Worthington. I am very happy with the choices you people have help me make.
But now it is time for cameras!! I need 4 outdoor cameras, front door ,back
door, driveway, side of house. They all must see at night with no red.
(invisible) color is always nice when possible. These cameras must be able
to interface with my touch screen. Then I need 2 cameras inside, I was
thinking in a smoke detector, one looking at the front door and one at the
back. These do not need to be seen on the touchscreen. BUT they all need to
be rded,(Maybe only 4 if the cost gets to high) I am leaning towards a
Digital Video Recorder, I need one that I can put in a hidden place. So I
need access to it via Ethernet? I have never installed cameras before. so
your advice is greatly appated.
Thank you
Norm

On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:45:04 GMT, "Norm" <imnormalsp...@attbi.com>
wrote (with possible editing):
- ->Hello Group
>I have a Omni pro II and a CorAccess 10" touch screen that I bought from
>Worthington. I am very happy with the choices you people have help me make.
>But now it is time for cameras!! I need 4 outdoor cameras, front door ,back
>door, driveway, side of house. They all must see at night with no red.
>(invisible) color is always nice when possible. These cameras must be able
>to interface with my touch screen. Then I need 2 cameras inside, I was
>thinking in a smoke detector, one looking at the front door and one at the
>back. These do not need to be seen on the touchscreen. BUT they all need to
>be rded,(Maybe only 4 if the cost gets to high) I am leaning towards a
>Digital Video Recorder, I need one that I can put in a hidden place. So I
>need access to it via Ethernet? I have never installed cameras before. so
>your advice is greatly appated.
>Thank you
>Norm

You didn't mention your budget or whether or not you want PTZ
(pan-tilt-zoom).  If there's no problem with money, then I'd mmend
Pelco Spectra III's in heated pendant housings.  The low-light models
switch from color to black & white when the light is low, yet still
have excellent zoom features.  I'm guessing they are around $1600 or
so complete with housings.  Pelcos are normally controlled from their
model 6700 matrix switch which accepts short string ascii input, so is
relatively easily controlled by the HAI OP2.  You can also use their
Genex multiplexer to feed rders.  I tend to use the analog 96 hour
rders as they are relatively cheap (around $300) and last the same
three years plus as the substantially more (over $1100) digital
machines.  You can also control the multiplexer via the OP2.  While
you can use video frame alarms, I found it far more reliable to use
Cartels or similar devices in roads and Optex outdoor PIR's.  
If you need "see a black cat at midnight", then you buy the super
low-light Sony or Panasonics (decent image at under .02 lux), but they
require electric shutters and irises and don't work particularly well
with zoom lenses, particularly at night.  
Without knowing the complete circumstances, I can't help you with the
indoor cameras, other than to warn you of potential legal
consequences.  
Best of luck,
--
Larry
r...@lmr.com

Norm   Apr 27 2003, 9:25 am     Newsgroups: comp.home.automation "Norm" <imnormalsp...@attbi.com> - Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:25:07 GMT Local: Sun,Apr 27 2003 9:25 am Subject: Re: Need some security camera advice Reply to Author Forward Print comp.home.automation2b7e5714aa30c62a" Individual Message Show original Hi Larry
    I left out an important thing, money. Less than $2000. I never thought
of PTZ cameras. This is a residential neighborhood so I don't want big
cameras sticking out like a sore thumb. I guess heated housing would keep
condensation off of lens. When the alarm is set(no one home) And some
uninvited people arrive. I want to know who was in my home and violated my
privacy. Can you be a little more pacific about your last sentence
(potential legal consequences).  This got my attention. Do I need to place a
sigh up?
Norm
"L. M. Rappaport" <r...@lmr.com> wrote in message
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- -> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:45:04 GMT, "Norm" <imnormalsp...@attbi.com>
> wrote (with possible editing):
> >Thank you
> >Norm
> You didn't mention your budget or whether or not you want PTZ
> (pan-tilt-zoom).  If there's no problem with money, then I'd mmend
> Pelco Spectra III's in heated pendant housings.  The low-light models
> switch from color to black & white when the light is low, yet still
> have excellent zoom features.  I'm guessing they are around $1600 or
> so complete with housings.  Pelcos are normally controlled from their
> model 6700 matrix switch which accepts short string ascii input, so is
> relatively easily controlled by the HAI OP2.  You can also use their
> Genex multiplexer to feed rders.  I tend to use the analog 96 hour
> rders as they are relatively cheap (around $300) and last the same
> three years plus as the substantially more (over $1100) digital
> machines.  You can also control the multiplexer via the OP2.  While
> you can use video frame alarms, I found it far more reliable to use
> Cartels or similar devices in roads and Optex outdoor PIR's.
> If you need "see a black cat at midnight", then you buy the super
> low-light Sony or Panasonics (decent image at under .02 lux), but they
> require electric shutters and irises and don't work particularly well
> with zoom lenses, particularly at night.
> Without knowing the complete circumstances, I can't help you with the
> indoor cameras, other than to warn you of potential legal
> consequences.
> Best of luck,
> --
> Larry
> r...@lmr.com


Jim H   Apr 27 2003, 9:32 am     Newsgroups: comp.home.automation Jim H <j...@optonline.net> - Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:32:36 GMT Local: Sun,Apr 27 2003 9:32 am Subject: Re: Need some security camera advice Reply to Author Forward Print comp.home.automation8753ad487ccc7575" Individual Message Show original L. M. Rappaport <r...@lmr.com> wrote in
news:rkpnavokvacne454umsman72vv83kafmcr@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:45:04 GMT, "Norm" <imnormalsp...@attbi.com>
> wrote (with possible editing):
>>screen. Then I need 2 cameras inside, I was thinking in a smoke
>>detector, one looking at the front door and one at the back. These do
>>not need to be seen on the touchscreen. BUT they all need to be
>>rded,
> Without knowing the complete circumstances, I can't help you with the
> indoor cameras, other than to warn you of potential legal
> consequences.  
> Larry
> r...@lmr.com

What are the potential legal consequences of indoor cameras looking at the
front and back doors?
--
Jim H

L. M. Rappaport   Apr 28 2003, 7:08 am     Newsgroups: comp.home.automation L. M. Rappaport <r...@lmr.com> - Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:49:13 GMT Local: Mon,Apr 28 2003 5:49 am Subject: Re: Need some security camera advice Reply to Author Forward Print comp.home.automation1d85cce08454c2cf" Individual Message Show original Well, considering your budget forget Pelco and commercial Sony and
Panasonic.  Sony does manufacture some bullet cameras which would
probably work for you, and those analog rders would be fine.  You
need either a matrix switch or a multiplexer.  The latter can put up
2x2, 3x2, etc. screens, but the former would deliver a much clearer
image.  
I own a small company that installs security cameras.  Our attorney
has cautioned us against installing cameras inside homes.  I'm not
familiar with the individual laws, just that he reviews contracts for
any work done inside private residences.  That said, and the usual
IANAL, my understanding is that common areas are ok, bedrooms and
bathrooms are not.  I don't know if this is because we are independent
contractors and might not apply to a homeowner doing his own work.  I
also don't know if this is State or Federal law.  Best advice: ask a
lawyer.  
I don't know the legal requirements regarding signs.  Here in NH, I
think they are not required in public institutions.  We've put some up
in private homes, but I don't know if that was to scare away burglars
or because we had to.  
--
Larry
r...@lmr.com
On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:25:07 GMT, "Norm" <imnormalsp...@attbi.com>
wrote (with possible editing):
- ->Hi Larry
>    I left out an important thing, money. Less than $2000. I never thought
>of PTZ cameras. This is a residential neighborhood so I don't want big
>cameras sticking out like a sore thumb. I guess heated housing would keep
>condensation off of lens. When the alarm is set(no one home) And some
>uninvited people arrive. I want to know who was in my home and violated my
>privacy. Can you be a little more pacific about your last sentence
>(potential legal consequences).  This got my attention. Do I need to place a
>sigh up?
>Norm
>"L. M. Rappaport" <r...@lmr.com> wrote in message
>news:rkpnavokvacne454umsman72vv83kafmcr@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:45:04 GMT, "Norm" <imnormalsp...@attbi.com>
>> wrote (with possible editing):
>> >Thank you
>> >Norm
>> You didn't mention your budget or whether or not you want PTZ
>> (pan-tilt-zoom).  If there's no problem with money, then I'd mmend
>> Pelco Spectra III's in heated pendant housings.  The low-light models
>> switch from color to black & white when the light is low, yet still
>> have excellent zoom features.  I'm guessing they are around $1600 or
>> so complete with housings.  Pelcos are normally controlled from their
>> model 6700 matrix switch which accepts short string ascii input, so is
>> relatively easily controlled by the HAI OP2.  You can also use their
>> Genex multiplexer to feed rders.  I tend to use the analog 96 hour
>> rders as they are relatively cheap (around $300) and last the same
>> three years plus as the substantially more (over $1100) digital
>> machines.  You can also control the multiplexer via the OP2.  While
>> you can use video frame alarms, I found it far more reliable to use
>> Cartels or similar devices in roads and Optex outdoor PIR's.
>> If you need "see a black cat at midnight", then you buy the super
>> low-light Sony or Panasonics (decent image at under .02 lux), but they
>> require electric shutters and irises and don't work particularly well
>> with zoom lenses, particularly at night.
>> Without knowing the complete circumstances, I can't help you with the
>> indoor cameras, other than to warn you of potential legal
>> consequences.
>> Best of luck,
>> --
>> Larry
>> r...@lmr.com

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